Well what I mean is if bungie is to link quest progression to pvp then it shouldn't be so unbearable for people like you.

I gotcha but why? It’s not categorically bad to some maybe but to me no loot or any kind of incentive will make me adopt pvp. It’s chaos and it’s that way by nature. Like gambit is fun but invaders ruin it. I don’t really ever want to play against you directly it just doesn’t appeal. I’m also aware of my own propensity to be toxic so I choose to not add mine to whatever’s here and like really I’m older too so I get OP like I just dont have that reaction time. Also it’s not meager amounts of kills they want in these quests it’s hundreds. They really wanna force the carrot I guess.

Why not? For starters, when destiny 2 was released it was 4v4 then changed to 6v6 but maps were made for 4v4 so a couple problems that arise are bad spawn locations, getting spawn trapped, much more team killing. Not to say 6v6 should go away altogether, of course. Then there is also matchmaking. Too often am I matched against either a 6 stack or random sweaties when I shouldnt be. Why there isn't a freelance option is beyond me but that still wouldnt fix the issues with casual players going up against players 10 times better than them. Too few of choices. Last weeks crucible choices were bad, for instance. It was control, rumble, elimination, and mayhem. I'm not a fan of 6v6, I like match types that I can get 1v1 encounters more often without worrying about getting shot by 3 teammates and less chaotic (especially with stasis). If I'm not enjoying 6v6 then I have few choices, there is elimination although it's more trials practice. Mayhem is way too chaotic and rumble is fun solo but I also like team play. Crucible needs an overhaul