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4/25/2021 11:48:32 PM
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Why does hunters need to use 3 abilities in order to freeze? warlocks and titans has insta-freeze melees.
Hunters: Shuriken + Shuriken + Dodge = Freeze
Warlock: penumbra blast = Freeze
Titans: crystals melee = Freeze
-Not counting coldsnap grenade since we all share it.
If u think is because hunters can slow, let me remember u that warlocks and titans can do the same.
warlocks summons a NPC thats slows u (and it has like 200 hp), titans slows u with shoulder charge (if u manage to survive first)
----Solution----
Bring back precision damage to shurikens (even if they have to still hit 65 in the head), precision damage will x50 slow the enemy, meaning 2 precision hits will freeze them.
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I can see warlocks and titans disliking this from miles away, Ik u dont wanna share ur insta-freeze ability to hunters, but I think I made a good proposition.
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2 RepliesAs a Hunter main... This is not a good for Bungie's ongoing balancing of Stasis. Hunter shuriken have tracking and huuuuuge range. If anything we need warlocks to have a slowing melee and only insta-freeze with rifts, same with Titans and their shields. Oh and let's get rid of the slow with Bakris too please, us Hunters should have slow or teleport not both.
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6 RepliesEdited by Swiftlock: 4/26/2021 3:57:47 AMBecause you have a wide selection of good exotics, a good jump, good melee speed, a super that nullifies enemy roaming supers + locks down objectives with tracking tornadoes that slow players, and a dodge with invincibility frames that also disrupts aim assist. Apparently that's not good enough and you need [b]insta-freezing shurikens[/b] on top of that for some reason. This is why people hate Hunter mains.
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I don’t think we’ll ever get back the ability to freeze with just our melees. The community would go into a nuclear meltdown if that happened (I don’t exactly blame them either. Stasis needs to be toned down not buffed). I think Bungie will probably address instant freeze abilities in the future.
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Hunters should be the kings of slow, Titans the kings of shatter, warlocks kings of freeze, yet all classes had to be able to do everything, so none of them shine at anything either...
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3 RepliesEdited by TonnoSenpai: 4/27/2021 7:46:45 AMlong range slow is stronger than short range freeze , if you slow someone you win 100% of gunfights
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Just gonna say, I do not think the solution should be to buff Hunter Stasis? Probably just wanna tone down the other two.
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4 RepliesI legit forgot how to even properly play the stasis subclasses. We only support the light side in this household. Been a nightstalker since TTK; never will change. Bow is life.
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Because you get your abilities basically instantly, also, where were you when Hunters where running wild before they got nerfd?
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I only need 1 Shuriken and a Dodge to freeze or 2 Shurikens on the same target to freeze. If you stay in my Duskfield grenade long enough, then that's on you. Yo ass is frozen. Personally I have more trouble with Top tree Dawn or Behemoth more than any other abilities. Still haven't found a counter for these 2 yet.
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I read things like this and I’m reminded that Hunter mains are probably the least self-aware gamers on the planet. Jiminy Christmas🤦♂️
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Cause freezing sucks, we need less of it all around. Don't get on about the warlock freeze it got nerfed the week after launch and hasn't been remotely close to the usefulness of hunter stasis to this day.
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2 RepliesPlease dude. The icy ninja stars are still OP. Nearly infinite range, bounces many times, slows on hit, and can "clean up kill." Throw one around a corner and push. Literally easy af.
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3 RepliesIts bad enough hunters have auto aim shurikens and an instant slow on dodge that can be spammed every 10 seconds with max mobility, you realize slow has like 8 debuffs right? It makes total sense you need to use all your abilities to freeze someone, if you need to slow someone down that much, they might as well freeze.
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And yet most top tier PvPers favour Revenant. Funny how that works.
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Probably to offset certain other things. For example Hunters get two Shuriken's each with their own effect and the melee has the ability to kill full health Guardians If I'm not mistaken. A Warlock's Penumbral blast might freeze but the duration is short and it doesn't do much damage. But at the same time Hunters have the best stasis super without a shadow of a doubt. So maybe its a balance thing who knows?
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7 RepliesIdk what you mean by the Titan Stasis Freezes. It doesn’t freeze enemies.
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[quote]Hunters: Shuriken + Shuriken + Dodge = Freeze Warlock: penumbra blast = Freeze Titans: crystals melee = Freeze -Not counting coldsnap grenade since we all share it. If u think is because hunters can slow, let me remember u that warlocks and titans can do the same. warlocks summons a NPC thats slows u (and it has like 200 hp), titans slows u with shoulder charge (if u manage to survive first) ----Solution---- Bring back precision damage to shurikens (even if they have to still hit 65 in the head), precision damage will x50 slow the enemy, meaning 2 precision hits will freeze them. ___ I can see warlocks and titans disliking this from miles away, Ik u dont wanna share ur insta-freeze ability to hunters, but I think I made a good proposition.[/quote] I think its fair. The freeze we had was oppressive and shatter dive or fast slows was outright destruction. The way it is now we have to manage our resources and capitalize on slows and the battles we can win and are winning vs using freeze when we are in a pinch. If you want freeze which I don't recommend at this time just use a glacier or coldsnap and run a grenade build. Slows are better but thats my opinion.
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Uh because you carry around 4 abilities to apply slow which is just as strong ad freezing and one ability is on a cooldown that is 4x faster than the others and that ability gives back one of the other abilities.
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2 RepliesCause they slow, not freeze.
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I've given up on hoping Bungie will disable Freezing in PvP, freezing doesn't belong in a FPS PvP game IMO. Because of that, the only way I can see there being any kind of balance with Stasis in PvP is to make it so that only supers can freeze and abilities can only slow at a reduced level compared to now (which I don't like either, but compromise).
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Slow is OP as hell, the last thing you need for a Revenant is any kind of buff.
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Slow is OP as hell, the last thing you need for a Revenant is any kind of buff.
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Because you get Shatterdive. Warlocks have no shatter ability outside super. If you had both, you could insta freeze then dive them.
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I know this is probably bait, but almost all of their abilities apply slow (accuracy penalty guarantees a gunfight win) and are extremely safe
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Why do warlocks only have shatter ability in there super
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1 ReplyHunters have more, easier, and better slow abilities. Revenant isn't a freeze class. It's a slow class. I'm a revenant main.
