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10/22/2010 5:53:30 PM
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halsey hates carter, why?
when they first meet she has a go at him, then on the package she just overrules him and tells him he can get used to it and then right at the end of that mission she walks towards him, the best spartan left, the only one who is good enough to take this burden, and then gives it straight to six. i am not surprised he ordered jun to have her shot if anything happens those two do not get along
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Chadachada123 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] pope jos [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Cmdr DaeFaron [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ajw34307 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] pope jos just a thing, look at jorge's armour, ots VERY old, he is using testing armour, not even mark 4, i doubt she has seen jorge for 20 years she didnt seem to care about him much more than she did six [/quote] Jorge has Mark V armour (minus the helmet which is Mark IV), Mark IV and below didn't have shields. And she was pleased to see Jorge again.[/quote] Technically the Grenadier armor was the test bed of adding shields to MJONLIR. So it's more of a halfway point between Mark IV and V. Or it's Mark V, but he just kept the appearance of his old armor.[/quote]sorry double post but, pleased, she practically ignored him is that seriously halsey in happy mode![/quote] Yes.[/quote] Actually, Halsey is very work oriented. She wasn't going to stop a briefing/meeting too catch up with Jorge. From what the Journal mentioned, it sounded like she talked with him some more before he left Sword Base.
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If he were the best spartan, why didn't he die last? [i]Ooooooooooooh![/i]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] pope jos [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Cmdr DaeFaron [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ajw34307 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] pope jos just a thing, look at jorge's armour, ots VERY old, he is using testing armour, not even mark 4, i doubt she has seen jorge for 20 years she didnt seem to care about him much more than she did six [/quote] Jorge has Mark V armour (minus the helmet which is Mark IV), Mark IV and below didn't have shields. And she was pleased to see Jorge again.[/quote] Technically the Grenadier armor was the test bed of adding shields to MJONLIR. So it's more of a halfway point between Mark IV and V. Or it's Mark V, but he just kept the appearance of his old armor.[/quote]sorry double post but, pleased, she practically ignored him is that seriously halsey in happy mode![/quote] Yes.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] sharkbaitspy You guys are forgetting the long term effects on Spartan 3s. They have to keep taking meds to stop them from losing complete mental control, because of the things Kurt secretly pushed into their augmentation. They weren't meant to last like Spartan 2s, they were meant to take out high value targets with high-risk objjectives, suicide troops basically.[/quote] Gamma company only. Alpha and Beta company did not receive those drugs. Kurt also put them in there because he saw how easily they would be disabled in SPI armor.
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Cater is a mindless automaton who only follows orders. Halsey trained her Spartan II's to look at the bigger picture and deviate from the mission is necessary.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Cmdr DaeFaron [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Zurp [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Cmdr DaeFaron [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Zurp [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] IHaveTURRETS JR Halsey's a little PO'd that somebody had to go along and make Spartan III's without letting her know. So, along with the personality clash between the two, she's not going to really like any of the Spartan III's in general.[/quote] Her fault though, they told her to make more Spartan-IIs instead of coddling the existing ones (who were getting killed anyways) and she refused.[/quote] Actually, she told them "There isn't enough children matching the genetic requirements." and they figured price would be too high.[/quote] Clearly she was wrong, though; Six turned out better than any of the Spartan-IIs except [i]maybe[/i] John-117.[/quote] Um, "There are not enough children matching the genetic restrictions for the augmentations." does not = "there are no children matching the restrictions." And that she didn't know the advancements they had made which removed the washout chance during augmentations. As for Six? I agree personally that he is just as good, if not better then Spartan II's.[/quote] You guys are forgetting the long term effects on Spartan 3s. They have to keep taking meds to stop them from losing complete mental control, because of the things Kurt secretly pushed into their augmentation. They weren't meant to last like Spartan 2s, they were meant to take out high value targets with high-risk objjectives, suicide troops basically.
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If you read her journal you find out that she is more than a little pissed that somebody sloppily copied her Spartan Program, skipping over some of the major elements that she deemed vital to it's success, such as the indoctrination from a young age. She is dissatisfied with the results and takes it out on Carter for not matching her vision of what Spartans should be like. She is even dissapointed in Jorge for modifying the armor she designed so that it wouldn't need to be modified.
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Pretty much it started when she threatened kat who is a member of his team and they are really close so that pissed him off and he threatened her about interfering with spartans and it went on like that I would have did the same thing
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Cmdr DaeFaron Halsey doesn't hate Carter, she just doesn't fully trust him. She knows he is a Spartan, but he isn't one of her Spartans, meaning somebody went behind her back and made more (which made her really mad). Plus losing one of the top scientists in your team and having the Covenant blow open your doorstep would probably make somebody not happy anyway.[/quote] Exactly. She thinks anything she says or does can be passed on to Ackerson (including Cortana) but 6 is the lone wolf of the group and seems like the most likely to keep it all quiet.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Cmdr DaeFaron [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ajw34307 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] pope jos just a thing, look at jorge's armour, ots VERY old, he is using testing armour, not even mark 4, i doubt she has seen jorge for 20 years she didnt seem to care about him much more than she did six [/quote] Jorge has Mark V armour (minus the helmet which is Mark IV), Mark IV and below didn't have shields. And she was pleased to see Jorge again.[/quote] Technically the Grenadier armor was the test bed of adding shields to MJONLIR. So it's more of a halfway point between Mark IV and V. Or it's Mark V, but he just kept the appearance of his old armor.[/quote]sorry double post but, pleased, she practically ignored him is that seriously halsey in happy mode!
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ajw34307 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] pope jos just a thing, look at jorge's armour, ots VERY old, he is using testing armour, not even mark 4, i doubt she has seen jorge for 20 years she didnt seem to care about him much more than she did six [/quote] Jorge has Mark V armour (minus the helmet which is Mark IV), Mark IV and below didn't have shields. And she was pleased to see Jorge again.[/quote] go back in the game look at the grenadier description, it was the testing armour for mark 4=older than mark 4 but still has shields
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ajw34307 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] pope jos just a thing, look at jorge's armour, ots VERY old, he is using testing armour, not even mark 4, i doubt she has seen jorge for 20 years she didnt seem to care about him much more than she did six [/quote] Jorge has Mark V armour (minus the helmet which is Mark IV), Mark IV and below didn't have shields. And she was pleased to see Jorge again.[/quote] Technically the Grenadier armor was the test bed of adding shields to MJONLIR. So it's more of a halfway point between Mark IV and V. Or it's Mark V, but he just kept the appearance of his old armor.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] x Zuka Zamanee x [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Caboose T87 Both are leadership figures. Carter is trying to lead his Spartans while Halsey is trying to lead them too.[/quote] This, pretty much.[/quote]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Zurp [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Cmdr DaeFaron [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Zurp [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] IHaveTURRETS JR Halsey's a little PO'd that somebody had to go along and make Spartan III's without letting her know. So, along with the personality clash between the two, she's not going to really like any of the Spartan III's in general.[/quote] Her fault though, they told her to make more Spartan-IIs instead of coddling the existing ones (who were getting killed anyways) and she refused.[/quote] Actually, she told them "There isn't enough children matching the genetic requirements." and they figured price would be too high.[/quote] Clearly she was wrong, though; Six turned out better than any of the Spartan-IIs except [i]maybe[/i] John-117.[/quote] Um, "There are not enough children matching the genetic restrictions for the augmentations." does not = "there are no children matching the restrictions." And that she didn't know the advancements they had made which removed the washout chance during augmentations. As for Six? I agree personally that he is just as good, if not better then Spartan II's.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] pope jos just a thing, look at jorge's armour, ots VERY old, he is using testing armour, not even mark 4, i doubt she has seen jorge for 20 years she didnt seem to care about him much more than she did six [/quote] Jorge has Mark V armour (minus the helmet which is Mark IV), Mark IV and below didn't have shields. And she was pleased to see Jorge again.
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just a thing, look at jorge's armour, ots VERY old, he is using testing armour, not even mark 4, i doubt she has seen jorge for 20 years she didnt seem to care about him much more than she did six
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She be trollin'
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also Halsey was completely surprised to discover they were spartans...she had nothing to do with the Spartan 3 program and was shocked to discover someone had perverted her hard work and made Spartan 3's
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because Halsey is pretty much a b*tch to anyone that's not a Spartan 2 in the books? If there's one thing thats canonically correct in Reach it's that
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ajw34307 Spartans do not respond to sentimentality, Halsey is also pissed off that Ackerson (though she doesn't know it at the time) has mocked her work by creating the Spartan-III Project.[/quote]This, although she didn't know they were -III's at the time, just another bunch of Spartans. lol [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ajw34307 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Zurp [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Cmdr DaeFaron [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Zurp [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] IHaveTURRETS JR Halsey's a little PO'd that somebody had to go along and make Spartan III's without letting her know. So, along with the personality clash between the two, she's not going to really like any of the Spartan III's in general.[/quote] Her fault though, they told her to make more Spartan-IIs instead of coddling the existing ones (who were getting killed anyways) and she refused.[/quote] Actually, she told them "There isn't enough children matching the genetic requirements." and they figured price would be too high.[/quote] Clearly she was wrong, though; Six turned out better than any of the Spartan-IIs except [i]maybe[/i] John-117.[/quote] Not really. I didn't see Six snipe half a dozen Banshee pilots from their cockpits whilst upside down.[/quote]Or running at 60km/h and moving so fast the human eye can barely track their movements. [Edited on 10.22.2010 10:15 AM PDT]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Zurp [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Cmdr DaeFaron [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Zurp [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] IHaveTURRETS JR Halsey's a little PO'd that somebody had to go along and make Spartan III's without letting her know. So, along with the personality clash between the two, she's not going to really like any of the Spartan III's in general.[/quote] Her fault though, they told her to make more Spartan-IIs instead of coddling the existing ones (who were getting killed anyways) and she refused.[/quote] Actually, she told them "There isn't enough children matching the genetic requirements." and they figured price would be too high.[/quote] Clearly she was wrong, though; Six turned out better than any of the Spartan-IIs except [i]maybe[/i] John-117.[/quote] Not really. I didn't see Six snipe half a dozen Banshee pilots from their cockpits whilst upside down.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ReTrAcK Cortana chose which Spartan would take her. Carter is military to the bone and Dr. Halsey is a civilian scientist. Those two types of people generally don't get along. [/quote] Nope and nope. You guys dont know that Spartan 3s are NOT Halsey's spartans? Shes abit angry to all of them, just less to some. Because they arent hers, instead they are made FROM his research without her permission. As you see shes very friendly with Jorge...because Jorge is S-II and Halsey's spartan. John is a leader type spartan aswell and he comes along very well with Halsey does he not? There is a reason why John became Squad Leader + Master Chief ;) Who wouldnt be aggrovated if someone stole your projects notes and made another similar project but cheaper and without you knowing...
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Cmdr DaeFaron [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Zurp [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] IHaveTURRETS JR Halsey's a little PO'd that somebody had to go along and make Spartan III's without letting her know. So, along with the personality clash between the two, she's not going to really like any of the Spartan III's in general.[/quote] Her fault though, they told her to make more Spartan-IIs instead of coddling the existing ones (who were getting killed anyways) and she refused.[/quote] Actually, she told them "There isn't enough children matching the genetic requirements." and they figured price would be too high.[/quote] Clearly she was wrong, though; Six turned out better than any of the Spartan-IIs except [i]maybe[/i] John-117.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] CivilTugBoat [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ajw34307 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] iReGreTz x Because Carter is a Spartan III, a programme which Halsey was against. My thoughts anyway.[/quote] Halsey didn't know about the Spartan-III Project until about 2 months [b]after[/b] the battle of Reach.[/quote] Did you get the legendary edition with Halsey's journal?[/quote] As a major Halo canon freak, yes I got the Limited Edition with the Journal. She knows that Noble Team are not her Spartans, but she doesn't know that they're Spartan-IIIs. She thinks they're from a rival project, like GUNGNIR (as she muses).
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halsey was rejected from making more spartans, surely seeing some succeed even if they weren't her own would make her hate them, and anyway she seemed fine with 6 anfd he's a mark 3
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Zurp [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] IHaveTURRETS JR Halsey's a little PO'd that somebody had to go along and make Spartan III's without letting her know. So, along with the personality clash between the two, she's not going to really like any of the Spartan III's in general.[/quote] Her fault though, they told her to make more Spartan-IIs instead of coddling the existing ones (who were getting killed anyways) and she refused.[/quote] Actually, she told them "There isn't enough children matching the genetic requirements." and they figured price would be too high.
