TL; DR don’t blame win trading, blame what caused it: gatekeeping and all the shady business behind trials. Hot take here, two weeks ago the whole win trading situation led to disabling trials and people were upset about it, but who are these people? Sure, not all of them are guilty of what i’m about to say but still, it’s well known now that trials has a shady business behind it. People asking money for the following activities: - recoveries (against ToS), - carries (still against ToS, if behind a payment), - cheats/cheaters (against ToS), - ghost lobbies (against ToS), exc. (You got the drill) This whole business not only is toxic since it actually gatekeeps lesser/average skilled players from actively partecipating in trials, it fuels a sense of dissatisfaction in these players that first led them to cliffjumping for the weekly bounty, and now brought them away completely from the MM pool as they moved into the win-trading casino. If win trading wasn’t a thing, they probably wouldn’t care about trials either, and only cliffjump once in a while if there’s a solid reward at 3 wins. Now, since average players left the pool, a lot of people who still play trials have found that they got way sweatier, and accuse win-trades for it. Those who once farmed lower skilled player are now getting farmed on, and obviously thay don’t like it. Do you see the point now? Being constantly the little fish leads to avoiding the gamemode and if there’s an escape route, you are more likely to take it. And the circle starts again. Trials need a HUGE rework, MM-wise and core-wise. Some changes have been teased in the state of D2 2021, but not much was said. A way to make it less easy for people to play trails from a different hardware (ie: link the console/pc to the account, one can change 2 times a year), a proper anti-cheat, monitor the LFGs (Guaranteed flawless msg on bungie 💸) and monitor sites (if you google destiny carry you’ll find a disgusting amount, even ads on yt) to take them down. Switch to CBMM or hybrid CBMM/SBMM and put a flag on people who went to the lighthouse this week: if a member of the fireteam is flagged, they will only compete against other flagged members(account, not character). These are just suggestions, but I’m sure that if the main cause of people switching to win trades gets addressed, trials can really be the pvp pinnacle activity that players deserve. Thanks for reading and bearing with any typos or grammatical flaws. Also, if you’re interested in checking some good trials rework idea [url=https://www.bungie.net/it/Forum/Post/258455291/0/0]you should definetly go check out the work StormEX set up[/url]. Edit: Darkside Royality just made a video talking about this very same thing, [url=https://youtu.be/CaXmWWRsejg]give it a shot[/url]!