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Edited by Blimgauss:
3/16/2021 4:30:58 AM
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So, win trading = “omg, disable Trials,” but rampant cheating and recovs = “carry on.”
I’m legit embarrassed for this company.
Cheaters and recovs are fine, but players just using a function that YOU put in the game means you disable the playlist for weeks at a time?
😂🤦🏻♂️
EDIT: And don’t forget paid carries, too. 🤡
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Recoveries are only a problem because the gameode is so unrewarding and inaccessible for a large number of players. In d1 you could get any weapon or armor from the bounties and armor dropped at end of match. Loot needs to be more accessible and front loaded in the card so that your time isn’t wasted by getting 2 wins and losing. Possibly allow engrams to award anything in the loot pool. If you’re played enough to get 20 tokens by losing which is 20 losses, then just let someone gamble for a random piece of loot. It shouldn’t be this thing to be gatekept outside of adept weapons. Also then make flawless more rewarding by adding maybe a double drop or more ascendant shards and prisms. Add in some rare emblems from flawless too like the scarab and there’s more to chase.
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3 RepliesIf one IP address logs into more than say 5 accounts that should be flagged Then after the weekend all rewards that were won on various accounts should be removed Would soon put a stop to recovs
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Why bother playing trials when my first game on my card is against a team where each person has 100+ flawless runs. There’s no point. The sweats complain all the time that they don’t like every game being a sweat fest, but they fail to realize that they are the ones who turned trials into a sweat fest. Yes it’s supposed to be hard, but if the little guys don’t stand a single chance in hell they aren’t going to play. With out the little guys to step on and slaughter it will only be sweats left. That trend will also continue, soon the lower sweats will start getting slammed every game and will stop playing, the cycle will continue until....... I don’t know people find a way around the sweatiness and win trade. The whole issue with trials right now was created by the sweats. Also their constant posting of “git gud” helps leaps and bounds for getting new people into the mode.......
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78 RepliesBungie caused this. Created a shitty mode that locks the lower 97% out of top rewards. - this creates recovs - recovs destroy matchmaking causing more recovs and cheating. - all of the above cause win trading and more of the above. Until its game over. Shit becomes so toxic there is no turning it around. Bungie needs to pull trials and rework the entire mode. Make top rewards more accessible. Do their best to get rid of cheaters and recovs. You give the lower half a reason to believe they have a chance at the gear and they will play instead of win trade.
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7 RepliesEdited by Cryen-7: 3/15/2021 5:28:58 PMOne way to get rid of handful of cheaters is to make this game cost and not be free. Also when you bust a cheater, make sure to ban them for few years. If you commit a crime, you pay. If youre a cheater and you read this, -blam!- you.
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[quote]I’m legit embarrassed for this company. Cheaters and recovs are fine, but players just using a function that YOU put in the game means you disable the playlist for weeks at a time? 😂🤦🏻♂️ EDIT: And don’t forget paid carries, too. 🤡[/quote] They still haven’t addressed paid account recoveries even once as far as I know.
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1 ReplyTrials, Competitive, and Iron Banner should only be accessible to those who have purchased the season pass
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9 RepliesThe few people at bungle that play the game, use paid carries, otherwise they wouldn't go flawless. That is why they never fixed trials until people found ways to benefit everyone
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Not sure it needs to be one or the other, Cheaters get banned (eventually, somethimes) AFK farming Trials lets players get rewarded for not bothering to play the game, then walk into comp against similar skilled players and shit all over them with their adept weapons in the most meta archetypes. I hate cheaters but you can at least report them, what the hell do you do when you time and time again get matched with players with 20 flawless tickets running weapons better than yours yet theyve got a 0.0KD for the last two seasons in Trials. These weapons need either 'sunsetting' then reissued at a later date or they just need to give up on trials and let everyone get these weapons and start again
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1 ReplyDo you even read Patch Notes? lmao
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Lol they will never care thats why this game is slowly dying
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2 RepliesSunset Trials
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2 RepliesThis is exactly what Im saying. People can play the game their way by breaking the rules and actively making the experience bad for other players for a whole year, but as soon as an exploit is uncovered that allows people to get free loot without hurting literally anyone at all it constitutes trials being cancelled FOR A MONTH. It doesn't add up.
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40 RepliesThe trials community made this problem.
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1 ReplyIt's that money baby, you can charge for recoveries and carries, no reason to stop Trials for that. Win trades takes money out of the pocket that has to be stopped at all cost. 😂
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the only way to fix trials issues is to add solo matching I know many will hate me for this but there is no other way to fix trials
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Win trading since 2014, who cares! If peeps want to role that way, let them!
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10 Replies"It was really important to us that we didnt release trials half baked." Congrats you didnt you left it raw
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They should just award emblems ... ornaments, maybe, for flawless to feed the egos. And put weapons in a grindable quest that everyone can do. That would cut down on cheating and carries.
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2 RepliesYep, win trading gets everyone the weapons which reduces the amount of recoveries and number of teams tubers get too stomp on stream for ya know "content". Now every match is the sweatiest and they don't like it cause it reduces their skill appearance and also amount of charity carries they can do which is also more views. This all about free advertising via streamers and if they don't have easy wins then won't look good so BOOM cancel it until the newb PVE'ers have to do it legit. I say remove all weapons from anyone with 0 kill flawless wins and move on call it a day.
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7 RepliesEdited by GRAVEL: 3/16/2021 6:06:37 PMI am 100 percent sure this game mode has to go. 40k illegitimate flawless runs in one weekend? Is that right? Between carries, and recovs, cheaters and traders that a whole lot of illegitimate loot in the wrong hands. Am I a bit jelly? Maybe a little. Loot is precious in this game and it's few and far between. Vault trials. Think of an [i]original[/i] game mode that embraces the community as a whole... Not just the A wholes. C'mon bungie. Do something right, for once, the first try. After all, you wouldn't bring back Trials unaltered and completely half-baked...would you?
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1 ReplyWhether they want to admit it or not its because recovs, cheaters take ppl flawless that pay money and in turn it makes Bungie money.
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Might as well let it ride. There isn't a pvp game out there that isn't dissected and exploited by the modern gamer now. I shiver to think what they will do to halo infinite.
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26 RepliesWin trading hurts nobody. Recovs only argument against it is it's against the ToS for Sony, Microsoft and Bungie. Other than that you're going to face those people either way, whether it's on someone else account or there own. The rampant hacking and DoS in Trials that still has been ignored by Bungie is what really kills the mode. It is sad that Bungie feels that win trading is why they should disable Trials. It's scary we're going to have cross play making the cheating more prevalent on all platforms.
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Like you've said, paid carries, even free carries and account recoveries are all issues as well that will never be resolved. Honestly, why have endgame loot tied to trials if only a tiny fraction of player will earn it while others are carried to it? At that point they're not earning it, so why shouldn't anyone else get the same loot, or why give them that loot at all? Trials weapons like the hand canon and pulse this season are incredibly powerful and serve only to give anyone who can actually get them an advantage they obviously don't need if they can make it to the lighthouse or even 7 wins, while everyone else has to get lucky on a raffle or something to get carried or cheese games by jumping off the map till they get a bounty done. Either way, Trials is not going to recover and the loot should just be changed to cosmetic loot imo.
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Lol I was just thinking the same thing, I’m a pvp guy myself and I say bungie should just kill trials forever. Destiny has never and will never be a true competitive game as long as we still have peer to peer connections, terrible gun balance and cheaters running rampant on a free to play game. Let pvp stay an arcade mode, the recent pvp updates where players can earn enhancement cores, shards or ascendant shards is the perfect solution to pvp. Let players play the game with only a few balance changes every here and there and call it a day. There are far so many games out there far more dedicated to staying a true competitive game, destiny is not one of them. In fact, destiny shines far more on the pve side of things than its pvp. I would gladly play more pve if bungie simply added more matchmaking to everything including raids.
