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3/11/2021 11:11:47 PM
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Buff Sleeper Simulant before VoG returns

It would just be nice to have another boss dps option. Plus, you over-neutered it to begin with and you owe it an apology.

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  • my boi atheon bout to get clapped ten ways to sunday with all our fancy new weapons

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    • I'm just curious how they will explain us going back into the vog. Will it be a simulation like the crucible? Whats the reason for us going back other than nostalgia? [spoiler]buff sleeper![/spoiler]

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    • no because galls returns...

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      • Edited by Phyromancer: 3/12/2021 7:11:19 AM
        My biggest gripe about the buffing and nerfing issues of the game now is that Sleeper Simulant was already there before. They gutted the gun by nerfing it during the Gambit launch. Now we are asking them to buff it and bring it back, where it was before or close to it. This cycle of buffing and nerfing and then buffing again the same guns over and over the years is also getting old by now. You know what it screams about them?... It yells "We don't know what the phuck we're doing with our own game!" That's what it says out loud! They'll do that again to Sleeper and I'll call them unprofessional blam for the entire length of this franchise!!! We've been here before. Sleeper was already here! They touch it one more time, you'll see! It will not be the end. You'll see!

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        • Sleep a simulant used to be a beast back in destiny one it's a far cry from that now it should be restored to its former glory

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        • Sadly we can't just use sunsinger to just cheese the cleanse mechanic in VoG this time.

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        • I just hope they fixed accidentally killing yourself with Sleeper while behind the Shield against Atheon.

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          • As someone who has been playing with Sleeper for fun recently, yes to buffing the red death beam. I love this damn thing.

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            • Not as long as gambit is a thing

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              • Nerf everything but close range weapons so we have to place bubble on top of atheon and Templar Lol

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              • Just buff LFRs all together.

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              • Edited by Kouz_MC: 3/12/2021 7:39:57 AM
                I don’t want to pay again or play a 120th time the VoG, I don’t consider 7y old fresh or worthy content, it’s totally “has been”,especially when I can still play it on D1, that’s why you won’t see me around as of next season. By recycling the VoG, Bungie makes a case that they can recycle, hence put zero effort or creativity to their game, and still retain their scrubby playerbase. Enjoy your premium priced hamster wheel with zero content.

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                • Weapon used in Gambit Nerf sleeper !! Bungie nerfs sleeper No one uses Buff sleeper !!!! People began to use again. Nerf sleeper!!!! It’s like watching the circle Of life but only featuring dumb people 🤣

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                  • really all linears could use a buff, Ehroar did a break down and basically came to the conclusion that they arnt the worst but not the best either. I would like to see them get better perks and maybe buff damage vs bosses and vehicles.

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                  • What is the current dps meta weapons for raids nowadays? Been gone a few months..

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                    • Yeah, Bungie doesn't like anyone having something that works in this game, and it's part of the reason I'm tired of seeing D1 weapons brought into this watered-down game. Besides that, the loot system and how stats are set up in this game with broken mods. VoG is just going to be another mediocre activity with a messed-up loot pool. IMO, there are somethings that should be left alone, and knowing Luke thinks he can "fix" things all the time is why this game has been one huge mess. Although, if I want to run it just for entertainment I guess there is at least something to do for a week.

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                    • Agreed I really want a sleeper buff, also hoping that they changed the bubble that the ageis makes so rockets can pass through it

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                    • Just been killed by it in gambit....it needs more nerf 😉

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                      • Edited by Icy Hot Todoroki: 3/12/2021 8:59:38 PM
                        With optimal DPS weapons changing almost monthly, would there even be a point to "buff" SS? Everyone focus' on "best", but in my experience, unless you're in a sherpa group, what weapons you use is a personal preference. For example, everyone has their stat based perfect DPS weapon for each raid boss, but with exception of Sanctified Mind, we've used 6x Heir Apparent just for giggles, and had great success with it. If Bungie molests...I mean nerfs one weapon, there is always another 2-3 to take it's place (remember Izanagi's?)

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                      • YES YES YES YES [b][i][u]YES![/u][/i][/b]

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                      • I’d love for this thing to be good again, but I think the DPS options in VoG are gonna be Whisper, Cloudstrike, DARCI?, Anarchy, Witherhoard, Eyes of Tomorrow, and Izanagi’s Burden. Would be nice if there was like a Deathbringer strat, Lament, or Fourth Horseman + Bakris combo strat too.

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                      • If I had my choice between a buffed Sleeper and getting a pre-nerfed IceBreaker, damn I have no idea which I'd pick for VoG? I sooooooo loved being over watch with my Icebreaker in VoG.

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                      • Edited by sonicBOOM5431: 3/12/2021 2:35:23 PM
                        I csnt wait for vog just cause it's gonna 2 more bosses that can't be sword spammed. It's gotten so boring doing that to virtually every boss in the game. Thinking I might bust whisper of the Worm back out. Black Hammer and Spindle were crazy good for Templar and atheon back in the day after all. Also, can't wait to see how many new people run vog and fire rockets inside the relic bubble.

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                        • I want a rework to the gun. Just make the thing a spartan laser. 1 round with a cooldown time but 3.5 or 4 times the damage.

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                          • Edited by Swiftlock: 3/12/2021 3:08:28 PM
                            [quote]Plus, you over-neutered it to begin with and you owe it an apology.[/quote] I mean, there's a LONG list of exotics/abilities/weapons that fall under this category.

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                          • Probably not. Whisper, tracking Rockets, legendary snipers, or Darci are going to be meta. We might even see a sword strat at some point. Sleeper and Linear Fusions need a pve buff though. It’s sad when the best DPS linear is a god-roll legendary. Linears and Machineguns both require precision, but have terrible DPS compared to the others. How does that work? They’ve also both have less total damage and extended DPS than swords. Even to that extent, Linears have less add clear ability than Machineguns. The only time they’ll ever be used is if we need an extended DPS phase that’s too far for swords and Slug Shotguns. A 25% flat damage buff in PvE ONLY could work. I prefer adding an extra 25% to the precision damage multiplier. This would allow them to serve as the Ranged DPS value. Their precision weapons, why are they doing less than rockets when you actually need to aim for the head?

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