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3/6/2021 8:15:15 AM
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You’re playing a game about abilities. Deal with it or find another game.
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Horrific take
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So is suggesting to split the player base but you seem fine with that so why should I care about your opinion.
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“Deal with it or find another game.” This right here is the reason why people leave the game. Rather than acknowledge there is/may be an issue with something, you would rather shut people up. I just don’t get this mentality.
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Yet you see no problem with people having issues with abilities when they are the core foundation of the game? What kind of mentality is that? Freezing is core to stasis. It’s a crowd control ability set because it freezes. If people can’t accept it then they are the issue. Not the game. It’s one thing to tune the freezing abilities for pvp, sure, but saying to disable it? Or the people who want the whole subclass disabled? Nah. At a certain point players can be entirely unreasonable. If [i]you[/i] ignore that, then you have the flawed mentality. Not me. I’d rather see the Light subclasses buffed then Stasis nerfed. Funny how that’s the least requested solution. All you people want to do is cry nerf.
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Edited by nmendez79: 3/9/2021 12:57:45 AMI truthfully don’t care what they buff, debuff, whatever. My point - which I think still stands - is that the “love it or leave it” mentality is very toxic. It creates a false dichotomy that one has to either accept something as is or just not engage with it. There could be other options (I believe you mentioned buffing other powers?). I think my larger point is that fans can ask for things without resorting to toxic entitlement, discriminatory behavior, threats of violence, or actual violence/criminal conduct, but Bungie - at least to the extent they market a perpetual social gaming experience - should endeavor to make a service where the vast majority of the player-base is at least somewhat satisfied. Or not - though I suspect that they cannot be happy with a much smaller player-base. Edit: To clarify after re-reading your response, I don’t think they should remove that particular power from PvP. As you said - it is a game about powers, and people ought to be able to use them and learn to cope with them in a competitive setting (although I do think - and they would probably agree - it has to be tweaked so that other powers and player strategies remain viable). Its the mentality that you initially projected when telling the OP he/she/they ought to just leave. To put it another way, if people were to take your advice, you may find yourself struggling to find people to actually play the game!
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Except that isn’t what I said. OP didn’t say to only balance it out, now did he? He went as far as to suggest splitting the player base, which would of resulted in your own worst case outcome. Fewer people to play with. So it’s very clear you didn’t think this through. So my response was geared towards the specific complaints and “solutions”. You took what I said, generalized it and then assumed I meant something that I didn’t actually say. The simple fact is, at a certain point, the game can only be adjusted so much before it stops being Destiny. So no, if it means some people leave, that’s fine. I’d rather have fewer players then have Destiny be watered down until it’s just a shell of its former self. Bungie is actually willing to deal with a smaller player base. Who do you think spends the most at Eververse, their main source of revenue for the game. The people who don’t like abilities, the core foundation of the game. Or the hardcore fans who love the game so much they buy useless cosmetics?
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Edited by nmendez79: 3/9/2021 11:50:57 PMWow. Take a deep breath. No need to get angry. You won. Bungie agrees with you! They want a very small special segment of people just like you defending their game, and you’ve done so. Admirably. No one is trying to “take away ur game!” Its all yours. I’m pretty sure Bungie is more than happy to take money from a few loyal fans like yourself than take money from a larger group of casual fans like me who would nevertheless spend money on Destiny but for the fact that loyal fans like you drive casual fans like me away. Enjoy your game.
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Edited by MC 077 Lasombra: 3/10/2021 10:40:17 AMAh yes. Because I want the core aspect of the game to not be fiddled with, I have no issues with the game or Bungie. Cause that’s what I right? Oh no, my mistake. That’s what you said because you had no other argument to make. I don’t spend money on EV. Don’t plan on buying the next expansion either. I’m not of fan of paying full price for a half sized dlc and slim seasonal content. Or them focusing more on EV silver only items then earn-able items. I merely stated the fact that Bungie is willing to bank on those that do. But sure pal. You keep thinking whatever nonsense you want. Have fun diddling yourself and being muted
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Now don't get me wrong, I like abilities, I just like abilities that can COUNTER other abilities, like in COD: Mobile
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Oh 💩, 🤦😂🤣 COD: Mobile.
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There is no countering with abilities at all in this game. Even before stasis
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hunter dodge vs a bolt grenade like arc bolt is a good example of abilities countering each other.
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Edited by MC 077 Lasombra: 3/9/2021 8:40:11 AMNo it isn’t. Dodging works against just about everything including weapons so it’s not a counter. It’s just a move. Make another example.
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hunter dodge is an ability. a grenade is an ability. dodging makes the grenade have no tracking which benefits the hunter as they don’t take any damage... which is a counter. it’s not hard to understand this.
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Edited by MC 077 Lasombra: 3/9/2021 8:53:26 AMRunning away “counters” a grenade as well... So make another example
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icarus dash or using shiver strike to get out of a duskfield nade.
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Running gets you out of it as well. Getting away isn’t a counter. It’s an evasion. Countering is best understood in the Rock Paper Scissors analogy. Were something works [i]against[/i] another. Evasive moves aren’t counters.
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lmao okay bro. not about to go back and forth over facts 😂
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Whatever you say. That’s why your only examples were evasions. Lol
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My T-Rex, Titan arm melee against any close range weapons would strongly disagree.
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Edited by MC 077 Lasombra: 3/8/2021 6:18:42 PMAs the guy said, abilities countering abilities. There is none of that and honestly as a Striker Titan main, shotties out range our ohk melees and can catch them mid animation. I couldn’t tell you the number of times I’ve been blasted by a shottie while shoulder charging.
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Also a Titan main. I feel you on the shotty situation with Shoulder Charge.
