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3/2/2021 11:52:45 AM
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What's the point of scout rifles?

Like really? They need a buff. Aim assist isn't enough. When 120 hand cannons and pulse rifles perform better at the same ranges it renders scouts moot.
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  • The point is the point. The problem is that Bungie is stubbornly keeping them underpowered, because they don't want us hanging at the back of maps and plinking away at enemies. Which I think is stupid and over-controlling. But that's me.

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    • Just bigger handcannons lol

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    • To shoot stuff in the head from far away.

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    • [quote]what is the point of scout rifles?[/quote] anti barrier

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    • Cannon fodder, except for a few lol. Maps don't cater too much to scouts in PvP, and everything else kills faster in pve

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      • Amen Scouts in D1 were glorious. A nice buff to scouts along with the return of the best D1 exotic: Boolean Gemini, would be a good play from bungie

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          Serious question. Do you guys REALLY want scouts to be a thing? DMT shows how good scouts can be with long range, low zoom and damage buff, like two tapping on any range up to 70+. Imagine everyone sitting farthest corner waiting for enemy to show up just to tap-tap-kill next tap-tap-kill next someone rushes tap-tap-kill next. Wouldn't that make like AR, SMG, HCs, Fusions, Pulses, Snipers, LFR, sidearms etc. useless? Maybe I am exaggerating, but if 120s are causing this much problem scouts would be worst. If they get serious buff zoom must be upped to 30+ or such. Just my opinion.

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          • Scout rifle main here. Because they’re fun. 😎👍

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          • Well you point it at a enemy, pull the trigger and the enemy gets hit by a small projectile. Like all firearms it was designed to kill.

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          • Bungie is scared of scouts because of the mida multi tool meta we had in vanilla d2 yet scouts were still usable in d1 don't understand why they won't buff them. Ps buff scouts, pulses and handcannons for pve their damage is too low unless you have rampage or some other damage perk.

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          • I just want the mida to be good again. And I mean really good. Used to be my favorite scout.

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            • Edited by Omnoms: 3/4/2021 5:43:30 PM
              [quote]Like really? They need a buff. Aim assist isn't enough. [/quote] Clearly you haven’t met a good distant stare user. Spoiler alert: they are terrifying. 4 shots and boom. Dead

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            • Still like my Polaris Lance w/ catalyst. Always in my inventory.

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            • The kill clip rampage Transfiguration, the last wish scout, is very good.

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            • They work just fine in PvE, who seriously cares how something performs in PvP in a PvE game.

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              • Stupid post.

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              • I mean dead mans is currently amazing in pvp

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                • The point is they go shoot shoot bang bang

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                • I’m horribly average in pvp. But they brought back The Guiding Sight to relevance and I started maining it again. Lovely!

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                • uuuuuuuuuuuuhhhhh.... you are probably way to close to your enemy. most maps in crucible doesn't really have use for scout rifles. some maps have some long lanes but you will most likely get sniped. all other areas are too small and you get outgunned

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                  • I've been asking this question for about 6 years now. The map design doesn't play to their strengths in most cases, and the maps that [i]do[/i] work for them get removed because people complain that they can't Shotgun-ape with 95% success on them. Scouts need so much help; the aim-assist buff was a good start but they need more. They need less zoom, they need to take reduced flinch and deal increased flinch - even if it's only versus Snipers, it would be fine, I think they could do with increased Stability across the board, on a per-archetype basis. Rapid Fire Scouts have a terrible ammo economy; they do the least damage per shot but also have the smallest reserve capacity, for no apparent reason. Their perk pools are almost always bloated with garbage, except there aren't even any good perks to balance it out. Just look at Royal Chase from last season, all of its base stats fall between 44 and 47, its perk pool includes Slideways, Grave Robber and Threat Detector; the best perk in the first column is [b]Field Prep[/b]. On a primary weapon. I could go on forever about the state of Scouts, I really could, but I just know that people will look at DMT, think it is representative of all Scouts and that they need no buffs "because it keeps beating my 120RPM Hand Cannon". Same happened to MIDA in D2Y1.

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                  • Grind for a transfiguration with kill-clip rampage. It two taps. Btw if you’re a good shot most scouts 3 tap at sniper range.

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                    • heh, scout main myself... and you're gonna hate me for it but step back bro o_O

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                    • to take down barrier champs this season - duh

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                    • I really dont see how people dont duel down 120s with trustee. Ive had no issues doing it and im horriffic at pvp.

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                      • the new scout can out shoot a hand cannon up close now by hip fire.. makes sense to me

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