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2/25/2021 12:11:08 AM
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Revenant Melee is just a better warlock melee
how is this okay?
- 4 second freeze cap instead of 1.5 seconds
- more range
- tracking
- ability to ricochet
- slows (slower reload speed, less handling, and less movement speed than crouch walking)
- 2 charges
Combined with the fact that there are Fragments that buff this ability even more;
- More dodge energy upon killing either a slowed or frozen target (easier to activate with Shurikens)
- 200% longer slows (2 seconds to 4 seconds)
- Weapon Haste and a free reload to your stowed weapons (Easier to activate with shurikens)
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2 RepliesWe don’t spawn with both. If my melee hits you from across the map chances are you’ve been shooting me the whole time. Im most likely dead. Ricochets are random and I have no guaranteed way to push seeing as how you should still have your abilities as well. If we trade charged melees... I’m frozen and will be killed... you’re just slowed and will kill me... Pair it with Whisper of Hedrons and landing a melee, which isn’t hard for you guys, is an instant 10 second damage buff. I’d trade my shurikens for that melee any day... then again... I can use a few brain cells to see the better melee...
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Edited by Ghostfire239: 2/25/2021 8:39:34 PM[quote]how is this okay? - 4 second freeze cap instead of 1.5 seconds - more range - tracking - ability to ricochet - slows (slower reload speed, less handling, and less movement speed than crouch walking) - 2 charges Combined with the fact that there are Fragments that buff this ability even more; - More dodge energy upon killing either a slowed or frozen target (easier to activate with Shurikens) - 200% longer slows (2 seconds to 4 seconds) - Weapon Haste and a free reload to your stowed weapons (Easier to activate with shurikens)[/quote] I agree that the revenant melee needs a nerf in some departments but you’re comparison here is not particularly fair. Penumbral blast instantly freezes which is incredibly valuable. Even if you somehow don’t kill the frozen enemy within the 1.35s you still get to do free damage. If also has an AoE and it’s not exactly small either so it’s not like you even need to be accurate. Here’s a clip of how helpful the AoE is: [url=https://youtu.be/VK1M6OBcXCU]https://youtu.be/VK1M6OBcXCU[/url] Look at where my melee landed and where he is. Also no matter how good slow is, freezing will always be better just because of the very nature of it. I get the feeling that people seem to undervalue how good an instant freeze is. Like I said earlier I’m all for a withering blade nerf (so long as PvE is unaffected)
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You forgot to mention slow destroys accuracy
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6 RepliesAngry hunters will downvote lol
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Don't forget with the fragment that also gives you +10 strength its 6 seconds. :D
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9 RepliesEdited by michael: 2/25/2021 1:21:37 AMNow that I think about it it definitely is. You are more likely to kill someone who is slowed for 4-6 seconds than frozen for one second, and the shurikens are way more easy to use than penumbral burst.
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8 RepliesIts still worse though. Warlock instafreezes with their AOE melee and instantly activates hedrons . Hunter needs to hit 2 slow non homing melees with an awkward hitbox to freeze. The same builds that work for hunter melee work for warlock melee...and warlock can also hold 2 melee's.
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Even without the freezing/slowing its a top tier melee. But with stasis, they are straight up broken. I really hope they change all stasis abilities so they don't freeze/slow in PvP. Only supers should do that.
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THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU GIVE HUNTERS GOOD MELEES AND GRENADES
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[quote]how is this okay? - 4 second freeze cap instead of 1.5 seconds - more range - tracking - ability to ricochet - slows (slower reload speed, less handling, and less movement speed than crouch walking) - 2 charges Combined with the fact that there are Fragments that buff this ability even more; - More dodge energy upon killing either a slowed or frozen target (easier to activate with Shurikens) - 200% longer slows (2 seconds to 4 seconds) - Weapon Haste and a free reload to your stowed weapons (Easier to activate with shurikens)[/quote] I hate whoever decided to buff it. No stasis needs buffs in pvp. Same thing with duskifeilds.
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Edited by Maybe30Ducks: 2/25/2021 11:49:33 AMBeen saying this for ages! I play warlock and was absolutely shocked that they nerfed warlock Melee yet hunter’s is so much better. I finished my hunter’s IB quest today and was just blown away by how much better the hunter’s melee is. I was getting kills that I would’ve never gotten on warlock. Being able to double melee and freeze multiple people while almost killing them is wild. Bungie is on one to think this isn’t broken.
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Y’all people really being like the “hunter melee is better than the warlock staff”, just nerf it all stasis abilities are op as hell
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4 Replies-Needs 2 to freeze -If you get hit outside of 30 meters it’s your own fault -tracking is only prominent after hitting someone -ricochet is almost completely random -you’d rather be frozen than slowed? -use claws of ahmkara if you want two (also again it needs both to be effective unlike penumbral) Use the fragments that work well with warlock if you want them to be effective
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Slow also decreases your accuracy, making your weapon’s ability to do damage random.
