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Edited by Vizio:
2/2/2021 8:59:40 PM
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Oathkeeper buff
Since the dreaming city is returning in season 13 I figured it was time to revisit an old exotic. Oathkeeper, the supposed bow support exotic that falls flat as a support exotic. My proposed buff would be to add an additional intrinsic to the oathkeeper to put it in line with other weapon support exotics like ophidian aspect, peacekeepers, year 1 lucky pants, etc. This additional intrinsic would be increased bow reload speed and handling. This small change would make a world of difference in terms of making oathkeeper the premium exotic bow support and worthy of your exotic slot as opposed to running only stompees, wormhusk, or bakris like I see most people using.
Edit 1/29/21: Some users have suggested maybe granting archer's tempo on all combat bows. What do you think to this change? Would a hybridization be too overkill where oathkeeper granted both archer's tempo and rapid hit? That way you would have to earn your buffs mid-fight rather than constant neutral game buff. If you believe it would be perfectly acceptable would increased handling on top be too much?
Edit: 1/29/21: While any suggestions other than my own are welcomed, please do keep in mind that oathkeeper significantly affecting draw time is not an intrinsic suggestion that's acceptable without breaking the game. To have an entire weapon category's optimal ttk to be locked behind a class isn't good for the health of the game and will never be welcomed by Bungie. To give a good example, imagine a titan arms exotic that made 360 rpm autorifles fire at 720rpm while keeping the original damage. It makes autos the optimal meta and only titans can use them. Doing this makes it so that anyone wanting to go into pvp would have to switch to a titan. Thank you for your understanding when commenting on any further suggestions for an oathkeeper buff.
Edit: 1/31/21: Someone from a previous thread suggested that oathkeeper should allow sprinting with a charged bow, that way you would be able to slide with a bow to start an engagement. Thoughts?
Edit: 2/2/21: With the new season pass coming with an exotic bow, this just strengthen my resolve in asking for oathkeeper to become the premium bow support with my proposed changes.
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1 ReplyI believe oath keepers need a buff but in a completely different way. See I think bows need a buff that would make oath keepers useless and thus they need to be reworked. I don’t think bows should have a limit on how long they can be drawn. After all there is no limit on how long we can aim down sights, sprint or many other taxing movements. But if bows can be drawn indefinitely then what about oath keepers. While I believe bows should be able to be drawn indefinitely, I also believe the “perfect draw” should still exists. Where if u don’t get a perfect draw ur damage decreases by 10-15% and ur aim assist drops by 10-15 points. Oath keepers would keep that perfect draw. This means le monarch won’t get out of hand, for wish-ender I’d add a timer of 4 seconds for the queens wrath perk that starts after “perfect draw” ends. Additionally I’d add a 10% draw time reduction to all bows with oath keepers equipped. Finally I would change the “perfect draw” time for light weights and give light weight bows a body damage buff. Perfect draw would last .2-.5 seconds (testing would need to be done to see what’s to much vs. not enough) but can 2 shot body with perfect draw for resilience 5 and lower or 1 crit 1 body 6 and up, and only 2 crit all resilience without perfect draw. Increasing the synergy between oath keepers and light weights. For pve, Idk.
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I'd also welcome a buff to this exotic or a le monarque catalyst.
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2 RepliesMake it grant archer's gambit level draw speed.
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4 RepliesI wish other classes got more exotics dedicated to a specific weapon archetype. Titans have exotics to boost SMG’s and auto rifles, hunters get the bows, hand cannons, side arms. Warlocks? they don’t have any specific exotic dedicated to a specific weapon archetype. I would love it if bungie started making diamond tier exotics that is universal can can work on all classes. They wouldn’t be any better than regular exotics, their diamond status just allows all classes to use it. I would love to have oathkeepers on warlocks for example to make a powerful bow build with the rifts.
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1 ReplyIncreased bow reload speed would be a godsend. The biggest issue I’ve seen with bows is that it takes quite a bit of time to nock the next arrow. I’d be happy if Oathkeeper’s provided a reload speed buff equal to just one stack of Heart of the Pack from bottom tree Nightstalker. Anything more is a bit overkill but that one buff alone can really make a difference.
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4 RepliesWhat about if it added archers tempo to all bows? I love my Le Monarque and think it’s catalyst could be this, but if not, then adding it as a perk on Oathkeepers might help on a number of bows and add some additional bow diversity.
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8 RepliesLove this... I was a bow main since D2 launch and Oathkeepers most definitely need something more.
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2 RepliesAh finally one one suggestion where I can take off my hazmat suit from all the toxicity I've been seeing. I agreed that Oathkeepers do need a buff. But I boost the handling and some way to decrease draw time would be nice to couple with the indefinite draw you have what make things much better. Now pairing it with Wish-Ender and a mic got me places in comp. And with Leviathan's Breath taking ages to draw it's nice to know I don't always have to reset the draw if I don't have a clean shot
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7 Repliesas a bow main, even with your suggested buff i wouldnt touch oathkeeper with a 10ft stick. it needs to offer something game changing, like, make arrows splinter on impact, damageing enemies in a cone behind your target. "disrupts or armor pircing" aswell now that champions are a staple in the game, only rework most crap exotics need to see some use is armor pircing or disruption
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23 RepliesThey should also give it some kind of synergy with Wishender.
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9 RepliesMaybe a major drawback buff as well?
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9 Replies[u]My Proposal[/u]: • Arrows can be held indefinitely and are empowered with Unstoppables Arrows. When hitting a target the Arrow will ricochet to a nearby target dealing half the damage. Getting kills with Bows also grant a bit of melee energy (1 kill=15% melee energy)
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2 RepliesAgreed but there are a lot of exotics that either need to go or a full rework(Mechaneers Trick-sleeves are a major example).
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3 RepliesI want the draw speed bonus to be buffed into actual merit first
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1 ReplyWear oathkeepers and automatically win? Solid perk... I think it's fine as is. Works great when I'm using a bow on my Hunter.
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3 RepliesHow about you can't get frozen if you wear oathkeepers? That be a nice perk. I really enjoy oathkeepers in combination with le monarque (specially because you can one shot in pvp when charged with light...) , but for other bows I don't really see any real advantage in trading another exotic for this.
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1 Replyah, you werent here when they released this exotic ? they were supposed to make you draw faster, but they didnt managed to make it work, it was only giving a slightly faster draw speed (like 5% faster) so they just gave up on it, left the 5% bonus, and removed it on the description. my poitn is : they arent capable of doing what you are asking for sadly (and that makes me sad as its one of my most used hunter exotic armor)
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2 RepliesA built in buff to reduce draw time would be nice.
