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Edited by Yosemite Sam:
1/14/2021 11:22:43 PM
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Come on now, the pandemic stopped them like every other AAA gaming company from creating new loot so they had to throw in old season loot, and now this to show their appreciation to the player base for giving them millions.
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Nice bait lmao. It’s honestly hilarious. Monster Hunter only had a delay to its new content for a month because of getting their voice actors into the recording studio for their multiple language versions was a hassle with the travel restrictions. Bungie put out a half baked piece of trash with only the campaign and experiencing Europa initially with that campaign content being pretty decent. Then... it all set in 😂
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Edited by Yosemite Sam: 1/15/2021 11:39:51 PMThey look like a bunch of amateurs to other AAA gaming companies.
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Indie developers produce better product
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Bungie proved 100% without a doubt separating from Activision that made this game, that they can't handle this game and they need to give up the IP in order for this game to even actually become something other than a cash grab.
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Indie developers produce better product
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They work on computers. Wether in an office or at home, should have no effect. They are clearly lazy or their focus is on their other development project.
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[quote]They are clearly lazy or their focus is on their other development project.[/quote] It's more like both.
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They work on developer build computers. 10k+ computers build specifically to work on game development, they’re capable of a bit more than your work labtop or home computer.
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What? They can't be unplugged and moved? They can't VPN to the servers at Bungie HQ? C'mon.
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You legitimately think they’re gonna take 10k computers home to get animal hair in? Run the risk of someone getting COVID on their computer and bringing it back in? Lol na dude, Hell I wouldn’t let anyone with a child take one, just for the safety of the property. Last thing I’d want as HR is to replace half the shit because someone’s cat pulled a cord out or their kids spilt a drink on the tower.
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You legitimately THINK it takes 10k computers to get animal hair in? Lol na dude, it doesn't. And yeah... of course the would go in and get their equipment. It has happened all of last year, with millions of companies, to be able to use work equipment. Do you work in corporate America? It did happen, it continues to happen, and it'll happen again as people go back and forth between work and home. You seriously think people don't take laptops home? You think people don't have rigs set up at home and don't log into work servers? C'mon man!
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Idk how you missed my point that bad. My point was would you WANT animal hair in a 10k computer? No, probably not. It could happen to a $300 computer or a million dollar one. But you’d prob be more upset about the one that costs more. Lab tops aren’t desktops. Don’t talk about corporate America if you think a game developer can get the same work done on a labtop as they can a desktop. Come on, that’s just a basic understanding of game development and the machines they’re made on. And no, I seriously doubt a bungie employee is gonna spend 10,000 dollars on a computer to work from home more on. I’m sure some of them have nice builds for gaming, but not for game development. They’re not slaves, they likely have lives they want to lead outside of developing games. Are there a couple? Probably. 600+ of them? Not a chance in hell.
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Ah... you meant $10k computer, not 10k computerS. I did miss that point. You do realize it's not the MACHINE, so much as it's the SOFTWARE, right? You do know that, right? Of course you need beefier specs, but AGAIN, yes... most definitely, you can take those rigs home and remote in. If you are still arguing against that, then fine.... believe what you want to believe, but that doesn't make it so. Bungie (of course) can do the work remotely. There is no reason to make excuses for them. Have a good one.
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I’m not saying it’s impossible, I’m saying it’s an HR nightmare waiting to happen, and those business decisions will effect if they can take them home or not. I’m not saying bungie did 0 work at home. Iirc they made 200 dev labtop kits specifically to work during covid. But 200 isn’t 600, and labtops are gonna have the same dev capabilities as a PC. I’m not trying to defend them. I’m just trying to be realistic. No company is gonna send every PC they owned home with an employee, and the pandemic unquestionably hindered bungie. Especially in Washington state, which was shut down basically half of the year.
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And if we want to be realistic, how expensive a PC to develop a game costs? Even with the newest parts released on the market I don't think it will reach $10k and I don't think they need that much to work on the game. Also, isn't PC build for gaming is strong enough for game development? Seeing the salary of game developer being $5k a month, I don't think it's too much to have a build for work unless life cost in America is bloated like healthcare that I see on the internet
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Edited by Seventh7of7: 1/16/2021 9:16:03 AMThe 10k argument is not quite valid. Has no one heard of vpn remote desktop or pcoip clients. This is a standard business practice. You have your 10k workstations in racks and the employee remotes in to do work. They even do this direct in the office so there are not 10k desktops sitting around they are all in racks in a server room. You can have a chrome book or whatever and just run a client. All the processing is done on the server the client only receives video so no need to major processing power. Very similar to how Stadia works where do you think that idea came from lol. One of the largest providers is teradici pcoip. Many major companies use this including game developers. Example if you want to see what it is about. This one is exactly about remote game development https://www.teradici.com/docs/default-source/resources/solution-briefs/create-amazing-interactive-gaming-experiences.pdf
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Edited by Lemon: 1/15/2021 1:50:05 PMLOL! and some people are truly satisfied with this so-called "we heard your voice" bullcrap with reissued stuff which almost everyone who has gone through those DLC's already has in their vault, but again they have to go through again to get the rolls which m pretty much sure will be same with some bullcrap rolls which is not even that good to start with, cause "it's pandemic and everyone is working from home" yah right! and other AAA even indie devs released some awesome updates in this pandemic with even less employee's then what bungo has right now. "You can show the path to the people who are blind, but you cannot make people walk on the path who is blind despite having working eyes, cause they just don't want to see it" - Fits well with some of the people who are happy with what bungo is feeding them, which is old chocolates in a new wrapper, in this case, old weapons, and armors with new rolls. Peace!
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You can't say what you said on here because if reality sets in for some of them? they can't go back to pretending somethings don't exist.
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Bungie: "making content is hard during a pandemic" Suckerpunch: "heres a huge 100% free multiplayer mode, a free raid, free cosmetics and no microtransactions. Merry xmas.
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The laziness with this company is absurd. A lot of this has to do with the dumb players throwing money at the shop and the ones that think shaders, skins, ornaments, etc... are more "important" than creating a decent game. Gaming sucks nowadays because of how greedy companies have become that quality content is considered the shop 🤦♂️
