There's no cooldown for shatterdive as it is, and hunters can spam it all day for free. Make it so after a shatterdive, Hunters can't move at full speed and it takes a second for them to use abilities and bring their weapon back up. This punishes bad players who just drewsky slam all day and then run away after they miss, especially against good teams in trials who will bait your attack out and team shot you. You can pretty much instantly teleport, shoot, use abilities after shatterdiving in this sandbox. There's not enough risk involved with this technique. Hunters should be stuck there for a good few seconds.
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EZ mode hunter kids gotta EZ mode then complain how OP warlocks are 🤭
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4 RepliesFor all the people defending shatterdive watch this vid [url=https://youtu.be/fzLn_QD77Eg][/url] Skip to 3:35 and 4:55 and you will see why people are complaining about it and stop pretending it isn't overpowered. For those who say titans can do it. Correct titans can do, but not to the same affect Hunters can which is why people are complaining about the hunter shatter dive and not so much the titan slide. For the record I think the shattering of crystals on both classes needs looking at. Today as a titan I had a nova warp warlock coming my way and you know what I did? I threw a grenade in between us and slid through it and killed him. Some people say it is the fragment that is the issue but im honestly not sure it is even that. Yesterday during IB I had a striker titan I did the same thing to and I didnt even have the fragment equipped. Could've been level difference I guess or maybe he wasn't 100% health im sure there will be others in the forums here who are more up on the damage numbers than I am
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23 RepliesSo basically you want an easy target to shoot? The hunter shatter dive is the equivalent to the titan shoulder charge and warlock handheld and prenumbral blast. If your going to suggest this then the same valence has to apply to the other two. If a titan shoulder charges then they should be slowed down and unable to use abilities and weapons as well. Same for the warlock. The hunters finally get a "1 hit ko" and everyone starts to throw a tantrum.
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I’m fine with that, but if you’re gonna ask for a hunter stasis nerf then Titans also need a heavy ass nerf.
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If it needs a nerf, then do so ONLY in PVP. Whether it gains a cool down, or just uses a melee charge. No need to go overboard and neuter the subclass completely as Bungie have done many times.
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7 RepliesHunter main, here.. 1sts things 1st, it's ok if it gets nerfed but us hunters get kinda screwed in the equipable fragment and aspect department. So, yeah hunters should be allowed to equip more then 2 fragments. It doesn't need a cool down, bottom tree Warlock dawn doesn't have a cool down on its dive and it heals them, Titans need a dive that can get them down fast. Here's the fix: Shatter dive itself needs to not do any damage on impact, it currently does 50. If it does require a damage number to detonate the wall the number should be 1, not 50. The grenades rapid 10 second cool down for shattering a grenade wall, after using Hunter dive and Titan slide needs to go away completely, it charges 60% of the grenade in that 10 seconds. Less grenades less walls to smash. The fragment whisper of fissures needs to have it's damage reduced and it's aoe reduced., it should kill supers without a damage reduction buff ie: ( golden gun ) but it should not kill a Warlock in a well or a Titan in a bubble, yet it does, ??? It's a grenade.... Also, Titans Behemoth super health is stupid strong that needs to be brought in line with other roaming supers and the Titan slide needs to have the same cool down as the Warlocks icarus dash, 5 seconds after the second use not 3 seconds. The Shade Bender Warlock needs a little movement added to their tool kit, the Warlocks movement sucks. I hope that once bungie nerfs shatter dive after all the complaints, ( the complaints are rightfully so ) that the Titan and Warlock get the same aspects as the Hunter n none of you get to use them at their peak brokenness of their potential. P.s., I hope Hunter n Warlock get the slide. Now let's get ready for the real shit show, once the nerfs happen. Coldsnaps were crazy they got nerfed, Glacial wall is crazy it will be nerfed. Get ready for everyone to be using Duskfield which are the most broken of all of them, p.s. a Titan can slide out of them and a Warlock can dash out of them yup Hunters are just dead in them, until everyone complains and they get nerfed. Just Nerf Stasis Period. It's sucky!
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Only in pvp then I'm ok with that
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I think what you suggested is nonsense. If it had a cooldown like cryoslide and icarus dash it would be good enough.
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Needing to sprint before activating shatterdive, like the Titan shoulder bash would be more balanced. Plus adding a cool down no more than 10 secs would work.
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3 RepliesWarlocks get icarus dive that works similar unless I’m mistaken. Plus shatterdive does have a slight moment where you’re stationary and vulnerable. Shatterdive is not OP.
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8 RepliesEdited by Dante: 1/5/2021 7:31:58 PMwarlock should burn for 185 dmg after second icarus dash and titan should freeze himself for 5 seconds after 2nd stasis slide.
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1. Remove Stasis from PvP. 2. Remove PvP and focus on more important things. Like actually making Destiny the awesome franchise it was supposed to be.
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I think they should add Wolfpack rounds to Shatterdive. The Shurikens should be at least 3 guardians wide. Also, Silence and Squall should circle the map until you get your Super back. That's what Stasis Hunters really need. Let's break the game.
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15 RepliesTitans can do the same Dunno why people act like hunters own a monopoly on this
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That's a horrible idea which would spoil the ability in PvE use. I understand people's frustrations with the ability in PvP but any change needs to have little to no impact on PvE. The Warlock melee nerf was very annoying, we don't need a repeat of that.
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2 RepliesHonestly just nerf the damage from the crystals shattering and it will be fine. That damage is way too much, no super will survive....
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4 RepliesTitans can spam their slide stop moaning and gg
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1 Reply-20 to mobility if you have the fissure thing equipped.
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1 ReplyJust make shatter dive require a melee charge ,and all is fair
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8 RepliesThe only thing that should be nerfed is Whisper of Fissures. The dive itself isn't the issue If you want to nerf the dive, nerf the stasis slide and shoulder charge for Titans. Oh wait, that's pointless
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I get that people don't like glaicer+dive combo but why do people want it nerfed into the ground. You PvPers don't ever think about PvE. Just reel back the blast radius and damage for -blam!- sake.
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Remove the damage reduction.
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15 RepliesEdited by AlphaLion42: 1/5/2021 4:37:49 AMQuit asking for nerfs. I was against the Warlock Stasis melee nerf and I’m a Hunter main. The game is evolving, adapt and overcome. Quit the complaining. Everytime something is good for PVE, there’s always someone in PVP asking for a nerf. Adapt and Overcome.
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Edited by Signor Sghi: 1/5/2021 10:25:17 AMAs a hunter main, i think there should be a nerf to either the AoE damage of the wall shattering, a pvp damage fallof, or a fine tuning of the dive itself damage (if targets ain’t frozen = 0 damage). Let’s say you get frozen in the middle of the ice wall and a hunter dives on you: you MUST die, no excuses, no call for nerfs, it’s fair. Let’s now imagine that the same hunter throws its granade on a corner, and you are pretty far from it, ie 3-4 meters, hunter shutterdives and you die instantly. This is not fair. A more balanced scenario is that after the wall shatters you are damaged accordingly to your proximoty to it: the closest, the biggest, also if the hunter simply dives on the wall, shattering it and you are inside the “bubble” radius, you should not take any additional damage from its dive, since you are not frozen.
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Shatterdive isn’t the problem here. A small nerf to the fragment that increases shatter damage (in pvp only) would hopefully stop the abuse of the glacier grenade + shatter combo
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There should be like a 3 second cooldown between shatterdives. We're already being slowed down enough with stasis around.