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1/4/2021 9:46:11 PM
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PVP has ruined Great PVE Weapons, Abilities, Supers, Exotics, The list Goes On and On
Bungie find a way to balance your game properly or keep PVE and PVP with out ruining the players weapons, exotics, supers, abilities im not going to go through the list here but is a very long list of things that were nerfed due to the pvp community
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No, Bungie has ruined (insert what you're mad about) because Bungie created/did (insert what you're mad about).
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You could win wielding nought but a wet flannel for most PVE.
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25 RepliesEdited by Dubufu: 1/5/2021 12:41:39 PMHot take: PVE really isn't that hard. You act like certain things are "ruined" yet high-end PVE has really only favored DPS and things like Warmind cells. You pretend as if your experience is somehow destroyed yet we all run the same activities over and over again with the same effectiveness, if not more effectiveness than ever before. For example: Even before Nova Warp was nerfed, it was never desirable for raids and bosses, or even crowd control. It was never that good to begin with, and was only really talked about in pvp for being strong The PVP community asks for nerfs because we experience first-hand what is powerful. The PVE community on the other hand would not dare to report any problems for the sake of their own loot and abuse. For example: People found two glitches with Shadebinder. The first one is that it can instantly destroy raid bosses. The second one is that it could be used indefinitely. Did they come crying to the forums to fix it? Not at all. They abused the hell out of it, going through as many raid bosses and endgame content as they could with it before Bungie even knew the problem existed. The PVE community only asks for nerfs and fixes when it benefits them. We saw a lot people wanting materials easier to obtain, and not enough people complaining about how you could walk through a wall in the DSC raid that allowed players to skip through entire sections. You guys pretend to know what's best but you are just as guilty. I laugh at PVE players who think they can take the moral highground while they themselves just let problems happen.
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1 Reply[quote]Bungie find a way to balance your game properly or keep PVE and PVP with out ruining the players weapons, exotics, supers, abilities im not going to go through the list here but is a very long list of things that were nerfed due to the pvp community[/quote] So you grind pvp for 2-4 weeks get done with all content what ya got left oh pvp... but it’s so bad, then play gambit or another worthless strike, better yet make the strike harder to get better blue drops...
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Yeah get rid of pve i agree nice idea
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7 RepliesUnfortunately, I think what you're asking for is simply not possible. No one has been able to make the kind of marriage between this kind of game in PVE...and an e-sport level PVP experience work. What each demands from the sandbox is contradictory...and no one is willing to compromise. So like a marriage with irreconcilable differences IRW, its probably better that the marriage simply come to an end. I think its going to come down to Bungie having to pick one or the other....and build the game around it. While letting the other go. I think Bungie has already made that choice....and they've quietly chosen PVE. Which is why the game has a feel about it like someone who is preparing to leave a marriage and file for divorce.
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5 RepliesThat is my main issue with PVP. When I hear someone complain about something being OP in PVP, I immediately get frustrated because I know PVE is going to be effected. Sandboxes must be 100% separated. This is already the case with Gambit. The damage values are completely different compared to other modes.
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1 ReplyLOOOOOL. Tell me more about why you need nova warp for killing dregs. Pve is a joke right now. Easy and laughable. Doesnt matter how much they nerf shit, what you gona do? Have to hit the dreg once more? The raid is a joke. The nf's are redundant. Why do you need shit in pve to be stronger?
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PvE has ruined far more things in PvE than PvP has for the record.
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Original Nova Wrap is so perfect for PvE and bungie nerfed to ground became most useless subclasses in game
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I think if they just keep ignoring the pvp issues it will eventually just go away almost like magic ,,,,,, space magic
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Edited by JT-Rex-: 1/6/2021 1:56:48 PMThe best way to do it it literally have an icon next to an item, pve, pvp and universal. This way we can have crazy gear for pve and not worry about the pvp cry babies ruining it, and likewise there could then be pvp gear with perks specifically for pvp. Bungie had their great philosophy of being able to use anything in any mode but we’ve known since year 1 of d1 that the idea just doesn’t work. Some will say “but if bungie could balance it blah blah” NO, why does an item have to be balanced, let it be supreme in the realm it was intended for. My idea for the current situation that everyone is annoyed at seemingly being that of stasis in pvp would be that stasis cannot be used at all in pvp and easily put into lore by having shaxx/salad man simply say they don’t want the darkness in the crucible. Can’t have your cake and eat it, that goes for bungie and us the players.
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1 Reply[quote]Bungie find a way to balance your game properly or keep PVE and PVP with out ruining the players weapons, exotics, supers, abilities im not going to go through the list here but is a very long list of things that were nerfed due to the pvp community[/quote] This irrational line of thinking again? Gear has been balanced separately since the start of D2. And no, pvp is not to blame for every nerf in the game. A lot of pieces of gear have been balanced because of abuse in pve content.
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If it worked for Hardlight then why can’t it work for everything else
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Both game modes shouldn't conflict and affect the other if they could manage that, be sorted
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What is PVE? (asking for a friend...) [spoiler]I eat crayons and main a titan...[/spoiler]
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24 RepliesDon't act as if there aren't plenty of PvE exclusive nerfs. [spoiler]Whisper, Orpheus Rigs, that Nova Helmet, Lunafactions- there's plenty more but it's 3 AM and I don't feel like thinking more than that[/spoiler]
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2 RepliesImagine being a pve player and farming the same 3 add spawns for power level to do a bounty and calling it challenging or fun.
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even with that ''' nerfs''' pve still one of the most casual experience i ever see
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9 RepliesPlease stop bashing pvp players. As said by others, people need to stop with the whole "pvp is ruining my pve game" and vice versa. Its up to bungie if they want to separate the sandboxes. Rather than attacking players who like a particular game mode, focus your fire on the devs who actually make the changes. You will get more done if you have allies in each section of the game rather than having to deal with a whole bunch of angry people because you used a blanket statement to accuse them all.
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Lol pve would be just as easy with no abilities at all. I honestly can't think of any nerf because of pvp that made any pve content any harder to finish.
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Stop this braindead narrative of PvP VS PvE players... it’s Bungie that still decides to balance PvP weapons while extending the nerfs to PvE. Separate sandboxes. That’s on Bungie, nobody else.
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Pve would still be just as easy my dude. It isn’t hard now.... And I’ve got some breaking news for you. Most of those players that call for PvP Nerfs? Guess who they are.... PvE players going into PvP for pinnacles Getting stomped on and blame weapons/ abilities. When in fact they’re just getting outplayed by players who live in PvP.
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Try not to get invested in this game it's uncertain wtf there doing play casual then play something else
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2 RepliesLOL, Bungie does not make changes because of what the pvp or pve community says. They listen to all players equally which means they do not listen at all.
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[quote]Bungie find a way to balance your game properly or keep PVE and PVP with out ruining the players weapons, exotics, supers, abilities im not going to go through the list here but is a very long list of things that were nerfed due to the pvp community[/quote] What are you talking about? Stasis works great as a super....... Ow wait.......
