Smgs need a mag size buff simply for the controller pvp. U get one kill per mag on average. Imagine if autos had 15 rounds or hand cannons had 8 rounds. And back up mag adds 3 to smgs. Not enough to even tickle a guardian. So plz either bump the mag size to around 45-50 or significantly drop recoil on console. Since a mag size bump would probably make them way to strong on pc I recommend a recoil decrease. These weapons already have to compete with shotguns and side arms in range. (which both can get 3-5 kills per mag)