JavaScript is required to use Bungie.net

Destiny 2

Discuss all things Destiny 2.
12/28/2020 6:49:25 AM
26

Elo farmers are ruining Trials

Card based matchmaking, accompanied with SBMM means say goodbye to ever carrying anyone after the first day of trials. Every card I run personally I will come across triple flawless titles on 15+ win streaks all spamming stasis and arbalest, thinking they’re the more skilled player. Tried carrying a buddy for 8 hours the past 3 days and couldn’t even get past the third win without losing our mercy, let alone get ddossed for our lighthouse game the two times we got that far. Me and my carry partner are very competent PvP players and can deal with most people, but when we’re having to 2v3 against 3.0 kd Elo farmers it’s impossible... BUNGO FIX THIS DAMN MATCHMAKING AND SBMM

Posting in language:

 

Play nice. Take a minute to review our Code of Conduct before submitting your post. Cancel Edit Create Fireteam Post

  • I have a 1.7 overall KD and its just cancer, I consider myself above average but there is just some people I should have no business playing against.

    Posting in language:

     

    Play nice. Take a minute to review our Code of Conduct before submitting your post. Cancel Edit Create Fireteam Post

  • Why don't they just make it a weapons only based mode. No supers or abilities.

    Posting in language:

     

    Play nice. Take a minute to review our Code of Conduct before submitting your post. Cancel Edit Create Fireteam Post

  • You know that's great..oh excuse me...I got an incoming message ...patching them through: [i]Hello is this thing on? Oh good! *Ahem* The Dust Palace is lost to us again. Back in Cabal hands. Word is they've let Psion Flayers out of their cages, to dig around in the Central AI's cortex. Which means, they really want what's buried in there. If Rasputin was protecting it, it's valuable. We've got to flush thos Flayers out.[/i]

    Posting in language:

     

    Play nice. Take a minute to review our Code of Conduct before submitting your post. Cancel Edit Create Fireteam Post

    1 Reply
    • Holy shit people still care about ELO? What is this 2015 Trials??

      Posting in language:

       

      Play nice. Take a minute to review our Code of Conduct before submitting your post. Cancel Edit Create Fireteam Post

    • Maybe... just maybe you arnt as good as you think you are? Just an observation from a random person..

      Posting in language:

       

      Play nice. Take a minute to review our Code of Conduct before submitting your post. Cancel Edit Create Fireteam Post

      2 Replies
      • Why waste your time with that mode? No only is it not worth it 90% of the time, but it's basically just a glorified elimination mode.

        Posting in language:

         

        Play nice. Take a minute to review our Code of Conduct before submitting your post. Cancel Edit Create Fireteam Post

        1 Reply
        • fr i have a 2kd and and my friends aren’t bad (1.3 and 1.4), and we just get absolutely shafted by flawless triple stasis teams running felwinters. stasis is so unbelievably unbalanced it’s crazy. i can count on one hand the amount of times i’ve been straight up outgunned by someone- but the amount of times i’ve been frozen/slowed and instakilled? i would need scientific notation. just match flawless players against flawless players- i don’t care if they stop playing because of it. if you’re going to forego playing trials because you’re afraid of not being able to stomp every game so be it.

          Posting in language:

           

          Play nice. Take a minute to review our Code of Conduct before submitting your post. Cancel Edit Create Fireteam Post

          5 Replies
          • All you bots responding to this moaning about how bad trials is blah blah blah are just pathetic. You don’t like it because you’re not good enough to succeed currently and don’t want to put in the effort to improve. Sorry trials isn’t a participation trophy activity like you’re all used to lol put some time and energy into getting better and succeeding and you’ll love trials. Or just keep shooting dregs in patrol. Either works.

            Posting in language:

             

            Play nice. Take a minute to review our Code of Conduct before submitting your post. Cancel Edit Create Fireteam Post

            18 Replies
            • They are more skilled. They beat you didn’t they? Makes them better. That bruised ego doesn’t change anything.

              Posting in language:

               

              Play nice. Take a minute to review our Code of Conduct before submitting your post. Cancel Edit Create Fireteam Post

              20 Replies
              • 1
                Not even matchmaking. There is zero incentive to go flawless. The adept weapons are completely crap since they are barely different from the original weapons and the adept mods are utter trash. Like why would I put adept targeting which gives more target acquisition but reduces stability on an auto rifle? Why would I put an adept mag mod which gives a bigger magazine in exchange for less handling on my astral horizon. The mods are basically useless and there is no 2nd mod slot so there is no point in using those mods over icarus grip. They need better farmable flawless rewards for trials so that people can stop farming the first 3 matches on the card.

                Posting in language:

                 

                Play nice. Take a minute to review our Code of Conduct before submitting your post. Cancel Edit Create Fireteam Post

              • Hey I played you lmao.

                Posting in language:

                 

                Play nice. Take a minute to review our Code of Conduct before submitting your post. Cancel Edit Create Fireteam Post

              • Provide incentive for more people to play or you will continuously fave the same teams over and over. This season has zero new weapons. Zero new armor. Reskinned reskins made into adepts. Adepts are ass. ~50% of the player base at an immediate range disadvantage without Felwinters. No actual content this season. A piss poor dawning event. More focus on eververse than the players. Of course no one is playing, and they definitely don't care about trials.

                Posting in language:

                 

                Play nice. Take a minute to review our Code of Conduct before submitting your post. Cancel Edit Create Fireteam Post

                2 Replies
                • That isn't the issue. The problem is that Bungie is terrified to put top tier loot behind trials. Sure, if they did people would complain to no end that they can't get it, but most of those complaining would also be jumping into trials every weekend trying to get that best loot. The only savior for trials is incentivizing far more people to be playing the playlist. All these other "fixes" about protecting the bad players from the good players are unnecessary if there's enough people playing so that the majority of matches are reasonable for a half decent player. But right now 5 out of every 7 games are against top 5% players.

                  Posting in language:

                   

                  Play nice. Take a minute to review our Code of Conduct before submitting your post. Cancel Edit Create Fireteam Post

                • Trials population is made up of this -top 2-3% -same players, but doing recovs -cheaters -a few of the lower 97%, that will soon be gone. Its not built to be fun, which is why its on life support. The more they protect their precious, the faster it dies.

                  Posting in language:

                   

                  Play nice. Take a minute to review our Code of Conduct before submitting your post. Cancel Edit Create Fireteam Post

                  4 Replies
                  • Edited by Erijian: 12/29/2020 7:27:23 PM
                    At this point it'd be better if Trials was CBMM. Card-based just doesn't work when the population is so low.

                    Posting in language:

                     

                    Play nice. Take a minute to review our Code of Conduct before submitting your post. Cancel Edit Create Fireteam Post

                  • Dude, Trials is ruining Trials. It always has been. A mode game designed for only the upper 15% to succeed is destined for player attrition and ultimately failure. Remember how they said they weren't bringing back Trials until it was completely fixed? What changed? It's still the same system but with new modifiers. It was broke before, it still is. I'm not against a competitve PvP mode, but if it's going to succeed it needs to be at some level rewarding and engaging to everyone who wants to play. They also need to lock down on cheating in an extreme way. But I think you're talking to the wall on this one. Bungie is on autopilot with the whole game, especially PvP. I don't see them putting any serious effort into revamping things. Enjoy the cookie cutter seasons and recycled D1 content for the next year or so.

                    Posting in language:

                     

                    Play nice. Take a minute to review our Code of Conduct before submitting your post. Cancel Edit Create Fireteam Post

                  • Edited by Wraith: 12/29/2020 5:43:08 PM
                    We lost our mercy on game 3 still went flawless even playing all flawless titles. After we clutched a 5-4 win in game 7. Also sbmm is not in trials. It’s card based and connection based.

                    Posting in language:

                     

                    Play nice. Take a minute to review our Code of Conduct before submitting your post. Cancel Edit Create Fireteam Post

                  • At least they ain't in PvE getting themselves killed in dumb ways and then proceeding to complain excessively because their felwinters didn't kill that champion.

                    Posting in language:

                     

                    Play nice. Take a minute to review our Code of Conduct before submitting your post. Cancel Edit Create Fireteam Post

                    1 Reply
                    • Elo mate

                      Posting in language:

                       

                      Play nice. Take a minute to review our Code of Conduct before submitting your post. Cancel Edit Create Fireteam Post

                    • Trials has the lowest population in the game. It’s pretty much now for cheaters, streamers, and recoveries. I won’t participate in it, as honestly, I wouldn’t probably make it to 3 games. And I don’t need a bunch of teammates telling me I should die for being bad, like I typically do after a regular pvp game on xbox.

                      Posting in language:

                       

                      Play nice. Take a minute to review our Code of Conduct before submitting your post. Cancel Edit Create Fireteam Post

                      5 Replies
                      • Love yourself Know your worth 😔 Invest your time in a more meaningful game

                        Posting in language:

                         

                        Play nice. Take a minute to review our Code of Conduct before submitting your post. Cancel Edit Create Fireteam Post

                      • Or better yet just make it so you only have to carry someone who hasn't gone flawless that season, it was tough for my team to find a carry who was competent so we simply made 2 of them as alt accounts just to get the safe harbor challenge complete for all 3 of us on our mains. Though to fix trials make it much more of a plentiful reward for those who go flawless, like better adept gear including armor thats also flawless exclusive, and just have the gear we currently have much more obtainable even when losing so more people at least attempt a card, and maybe add a feature that doesn't let you reset your card until you lose at least once, or go flawless/finish card. Also, Make the trials chest also more like the deep stone crypt chest so farming loot is actually worth it.

                        Posting in language:

                         

                        Play nice. Take a minute to review our Code of Conduct before submitting your post. Cancel Edit Create Fireteam Post

                      • Edited by AubsTheBelieber: 12/29/2020 12:15:27 PM
                        I don't think you realize how matchmaking is nowadays. It is not skill based matchmaking. It is not connection based matchmaking. It isn't true skill ratings based. It is now just a matter of whoever has the exact same number of wins on their cards as you can be thrown against you. Matchmaking is so card based, I have played Trials with people that never played it before in their lives, and me with 3 people with negative K.D.s for every PVP activity, and we are thrown against a team of 3 people with over 2.5 K.D. each and the 4 player is over 4.5 K.D. and top 10 in the entire world for Trials elo. Trust me, if you were matched against players with highest elos in the world while you are playing with your 14 year old idiot that wouldn't shut up for 30 minutes about me playing Trials with him for his first try, you would see it is card based with no other factors that would make Trials of actual quality. Also, Why is it still a problem that the highest skilled players are better off farming low wins, like 1-3 wins on a card. The people that go flawless with ease are left with the only option of farming low wins. Once a person of higher skill has already gotten their flawless for the weekend, they are only logical to farm low wins on their cards. Why have 6 or 7 wins on a card and be pinned against people of their skill level? If they reset their cards every couple wins, they get casuals they can farm to increase their K.D.s and easy wins means elo gains nonstop. Bungie still has refused to address the reward system causing highest skilled players farming casuals with only 1 or 2 wins on a card. If you want tokens, and guaranteed wins, you reset your card constantly to go against the most casual players in Trials.

                        Posting in language:

                         

                        Play nice. Take a minute to review our Code of Conduct before submitting your post. Cancel Edit Create Fireteam Post

                        1 Reply
                        • Edited by xbroggiex: 12/29/2020 2:49:30 AM
                          Look... Gonna be painfully honest here. But I think you are just wasting your time with Trials, the loot is not worth the effort and Adept weapons aren't that special. You know what? Just don't play the game really, its not worth a hardcore player's amount of time anymore since they can't produce content that is more engaging than simple filler chore list grind. Destiny 2 has become a insanely casual game for me because of the terrible changes made to this game. I've somewhat wanted to play Trials but... why bother? Adepts aren't that amazing to be worth chasing since they will be sunset anyway and again aren't that much better than my other weapons that I have. Cosmetics are kind of cool but again not worth the effort put in just to obtain them. Maybe... bragging rights? But honestly anyone who cares about bragging rights in a loot based PvP game is straight delusional imo. TL;DR Don't play Trials it ain't gonna get the love it should get, and you shouldn't show Bungie its worth your time either.

                          Posting in language:

                           

                          Play nice. Take a minute to review our Code of Conduct before submitting your post. Cancel Edit Create Fireteam Post

                          4 Replies
                          • Going be fun when they take it out of the game again lol

                            Posting in language:

                             

                            Play nice. Take a minute to review our Code of Conduct before submitting your post. Cancel Edit Create Fireteam Post

                            3 Replies
                            • You are not being clear. What is the current situation exactly and how would you like to be changed? Is it matchmaking flawless players together? If so, I agree.

                              Posting in language:

                               

                              Play nice. Take a minute to review our Code of Conduct before submitting your post. Cancel Edit Create Fireteam Post

                            You are not allowed to view this content.
                            ;
                            preload icon
                            preload icon
                            preload icon