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12/19/2020 8:26:58 PM
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House Dusk deserved... More
Now disclaimer, this is a bit of a funny rant/shit post I've had in mind for awhile now. So don't expect any hard hitting writing criticism nor any super serious takes
They're purple spider aliens, I'm just having a laugh
ANYWAY! LETS BEGIN!
The House of Dusk. Without a doubt one of the most underutilized and most overlooked factions introduced in Destiny 2
Lore wise they're the result of the young wolf going on a kill streak and absolutely DESTROYING the old houses in any way he/she/it could. You got a Kell? DEAD. you got an Archon? DEAD. Are you such a pathetic house that you don't even have a kell, archon, or any any real form of leadership and have to contend with the Hive of all things? THAT'S A NICE BARON YOU GOT THERE, DEAD.
After the Siva crisis the fallen took a deep breath, clasped all four of their hands together and said "we need a new plan". Boom, House of Dusk. Now yeah I oversimplified it, but that's basically it and Bungie didn't even bother to explain much until a year later with Forsaken.
So this is BIG, for centuries the fallen houses have been at eachothers throats almost as much as they've been at humanities. Not even Skolas, nor SIVA could unit them. The entire house is the result of mass desperation and LITERALLY no other choice. Now you'd think this would be pretty big right? All of the sudden fallen leadership is united under one (maybe two, ignore the king's) banner
Now how did Bungie screw it up?
Well... They didn't do anything with them. We got no explanation to how they operate now, the LORE NERDS just kinda assumed they didn't have a Kell because Bungie never mentioned if they did or not, and their entire presence was completely overshadowed by the CHAD red legion and new savathune brood.
They got completely left in the dust.
And that's a shame! Because before Scorn showed up Fallen were my favourite faction! Their pirate esthetic, their houses, their leadership, it was all sick!
I still remember to this day logging on to the beta for D2, playing inverted Spire, and freaking out when I saw A NEW FALLEN HOUSE!! That stuff didn't just happen back in D1! But now it happens like once a year. In forsaken we got "the houseless", spider's crew, the Kells scourge, Eramis' devil loyalists, the house of light, and in beyond light we got the house of salvation. It felt like Bungie desperately wanted to go back to the old ways but didn't bother giving any depth to what they just created
And that's what I'm most sorry for. I'm sorry that the House of Dusk got swept under the rug and just left there to simmer. House Dusk deserved better in my eyes! We should've gotten a peak into how this new house operates, what are its values? How does leadership work? What's the culture like now?
I always believed they essentially worked like orcs, following the toughest captain in the vicinity rather than a strict chain of command. But this is just an assumption because Bungie never actually EXPLAINED how they work themselves
At the end of the day, a missed opportunity is exactly that. It's very apparent that Bungie is definitely moving away from Dusk and rather drawing a line in the sand with both house salvation and house light. Will Dusk get the writing they deserve? Or are we just a few short years from their complete extinction? A house that stands for nothing falls to everything they say
Who cares
[spoiler] BECAUSE WE ALL KNOW THE SCORN WILL DEVOURER THEM FROM THE ABYSS BABYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!
SCORN SCORN SCORN SCORN SCORN SCORN SCORN SCORN SCORN SCORN SCORN SCORN SCORN SCORN SCORN![/spoiler]
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I agree massively here, not to mention the complete lack of lore for a lot of strike bosses (at least as far as I know (specifically year 1 strikes)) like, thaviks, what's up with them? Nothing really, just made people die of blood pressure related heart failure...
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15 RepliesI don't ubdeestand this "unification" fad writers have had recently. >Space Marine chapters? Made irrelevant >Bandit factions in Borderlands? Unified >Fallen houses and their ideals? Unified twice >Cabal factions and races? Condenced into 2 options, maybe becoming one soon. And many more. Like, why? Sure keeping up with all of the factions at once is hard, but keeping them in the backburner and bringing up one faction at a time here and there keeps the universe way more rich than what has been done now.
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2 RepliesAwwww. Is the shill coming to terms with bad writing in Destiny? Good! 'Bout time! [quote]And that's what I'm most sorry for. I'm sorry that the House of Dusk got swept under the rug and just left there to simmer. House Dusk deserved better in my eyes! We should've gotten a peak into how this new house operates, what are its values? How does leadership work? What's the culture like now? [/quote] All the damn Houses in D1 are basically interchangeable. Sure they had different purposes for existing, but it's not like they expanded upon any of that in the game in an actual good way! No side missions or characters in the game, nothing! Couple of cards in another website ain't how ya do it, though! Those Houses essentially did the same things with the same culture and the same values and the same leadership structure. If it wasn't "unite all the Eliksni", it was getting to the Traveler! Anyway, it works the same exact way with the House of Dusk. Probably why they didn't bother explaining shit. Because that House just did the same shit the others back in D1 did! [quote]I always believed they essentially worked like orcs, following the toughest captain in the vicinity rather than a strict chain of command.[/quote] Hahahahahahah! That "blowing the toughest jackass" stuff is LITERALLY their strict chain of command! Like, for ALL the Houses! C'mon, man! You're gonna get your shill card revoked! [i]*reads ahead[/i] Oh, and he doesn't know Uldren formed the House of Dusk after Craask, the Kell of Kings, got docked and slaughtered by him and his man-slave Fikrul just because his ambitions didn't line up with his own!
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4 RepliesIf anything I’d say it’s d2 blobbing entire species together that was the problem. Having all the fallen, hive, cabal and vex on their one respective team felt dumb because it meant you couldn’t have the same kind of competition or conflicts between the groups like in D1. House of wolves had an interesting conflict between houses and gave us the relations between various individuals and factions. In D2 all fallen wear the same colors and identical gear but I’m supposed to buy the idea that there are distinct groups. It sucks because now they have to spell out whenever your fighting enemies who work for a specific baddy. It’s why they’ve gradually been trying to revert back to D1 where you had visually distinct groups meant to set them apart like the hidden swarm or house salvation. And this is probably just my problem but I find it boring when almost every hive or cabal in the system works for the same antagonist with no meaningful nuances, makes the factions feel small.
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5 RepliesEdited by Sturm with no Drang: 12/20/2020 1:23:09 PMI’m glad that with D2 they expanded further with the Cabal and Hive/Taken, giving them far more substance, backstory/lore, and actually empowering them as very real threats. The Cabal you fought on Mars? Oh yeah, they were just the equivalent of a scouting party, let’s show you Guardians what a real Legion looks like. You thought Oryx was bad then just wait until you see what kind of -blam!-ery the other two got in store for you. And then the Fallen just kinda got swept away following RoI. Sure, the Kell’s Scourge House was a potentially big problem if not dealt with (those were damned warheads in the Armory’s Vault) and Eramis is actually big plot relevant material depending on where you begin and start in the Exo Stranger’s story, but there used to be more to the Fallen in the past. In D1, we used to know literally nothing about them, not even how ether actually works. In the Winter’s Run strike, Cayde pretty much played up the whole “if they wake it up and revive its soul” thing like we were gonna deal with some sort of monstrous behemoth that used to be the cooler “Speaker” for the Fallen back in the day. The resourcefulness of the Devil’s and their Splicer faction group made them perhaps the absolute worst ones to have found Siva in terms of its potential as a weapon. We’d have been screwed had they the opportunity to utilize it more. And then...what? Every major House was broken up, every position greater than a Captain was left in the dust, they were suddenly no more of a threat than the remaining Hive cultists on the Moon who were too preoccupied with their fight club. Even with a seemingly dominant occupation on Europa, they really didn’t feel like as much of an actual problem story-wise as the Splicers did off in the Plaguelands. They were just kinda there and we dealt with them, only exception being with their immediate presence in the Deep Stone Crypt and the Morning Star blowing things up had they succeeded or worse. It honestly felt like we had a nemesis relationship going on with the Fallen, but since we dealt with most of the big names they just feel downplayed now and the Cabal Empire and Hive collective had taken the Fallen’s place with D2. It feels more and more like we’re gonna end up mostly sided up as allies now given Mithrax and Variks’ presence alongside the looming threat of the Pyramids and I’m honestly gonna miss that thing we had going on.
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1 ReplyWant to see what your fighting today, SCORN on the horizon
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2 RepliesEdited by RufousTeacher29: 12/20/2020 12:48:11 AMScorn are just walking zombie turtles CHANGE MY MIND
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2 Repliesippity-doo, ippity-dee, your s's and c's will turn into p's porn! porn! porn!
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The rise of House Light and Salvation removes the need for Dusk. It was a ragtag group because they had no where else to go. Well...now they do and both of them offer more then scraps, they offer power and with it a degree of safety they can’t get in Dusk. House Light offers a way towards a truce and regaining the Traveler. House Salvation spurns humanity and the Traveler for the Darkness. It makes perfect sense. It is kind of a waste? Not really. We know enough about the other houses and how things work. Culturally, that aspect as been addressed. I think it was Variks who said they aren’t called Fallen just because they lost their homeworld. Their culture is in the tubes, the price of barely scrapping by for so long. It will only rise through one of the two Houses.
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3 RepliesEdited by Guardian, Archon Of Light: 12/19/2020 9:28:31 PM
Guardian, Archon Of LightArchon Priest Of House Light - old
They did have a kell, it just wasn’t an eliksni one,and we killed him to,do they have a new leader,more than likely,but we will kill them to when the story calls for it I always thought the house of dusk was bungies way of not having to create different character models ,even in the saint 14 rescue mission the House Of Rain were the same has House Dusk ,and in Zero hour Eramis troops still wore the dusk colors and sigil . It took Bungie 3 years to actually make a new eliksni character design with House Salvation, and it was a welcomed change ,got tired of killing purple Fallen “What does House of Dusk stand for,they don’t know”-Variks -
5 RepliesHouse Dusk is okay, but I want to see the House of Devils return , led by old House of Kings leadership. If Taniks can survive an orbital crash then the King Kell can survive an assassination attempt. I want to see the remnants of House of Winter, those that refused to join the Wolves, now in hiding for years, make a resurgency, bolstered by worshipping the Vex instead of the Traveler of the Darkness. Imagine fallen-vex hybrids. Salvation should crown a new leader, one that hides in the shadows and is much harder to eliminate than Eramis or Kridis. Let's see House of Dusk form an Archon council, and instead of a single Kell, they have an assembly of Archons, making them much harder to destabilize. Cut off one head, two more rise to take it's place. Finally, the remnants of Tanik's crew should revive the extinct House of Scar, maybe gathering troops from house of Exile and repairing the Dusk Warren ketch on the moon. Become a mercenary/guardian-hunting house. And the Fanatic should just revive the other Barons already, he can do it with the machinist so why not the others?
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2 RepliesDang honestly that’s so true, for all the times they overused the Red Legion(which majority of the time was okay and made sense) you think we could’ve had more build up around the House of Dusk. I had always hoped that Eramis/Salvation would rival them. I understand we’d have “just another fallen faction” but I like the idea of all inner planet houses going against outer planet houses.
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1 ReplyScorn people......Scorn people.......Scorn people.....
