If scoob comments on this I’d probably cry or something 😳

I just don't understand why they cannot at least fill the gaps for guns that are sorely needed in the game. It's not like we want old guns to return, but if that's the best you can do for now - bring em back! Iron Banner has been dead for ages. Introducing reskinned weapons is getting old.. The Devil You Know -> Better Devils -> The Steady Hand -> True Prophecy -> The Steady Hand.. It's a reskinned weapon of a reskin of a reskin of a reskin. List of essential legendary weapons not present in the game (to stun champions etc): - 0 void SMGs, 1 solar SMG (mini-tool does not count) - 0 arc scout rifles, 1 void scout rifle (trash), 1 solar scout rifle (actually good) - 0 void hand cannons, 0 solar hand cannons (wtf..?) Bring back the Mannannan, because that void scout from Europa is hot trash. How hard can it be to introduce like 20 new and decent legendary weapons to fill the cracks the sunsetting created? And fix the time to stun on overload auto rifles - it's so shit nobody is touching autos in high tier difficulty PvE content.. /rant

I agree. The game is great overall, but there needs to be WAYYYYY more loot with more perks.

We’ve had this conversation for the past 6 years, Bungie isn’t going to do anything about it since sunsetting will be used as an excuse not to make more loot and repeatable content. Bungie has given up.

Think about this though. We are so dry with loot...that we are having to ask for old D1 loot. That’s kinda sad. It’s not “kinda”...it is. It’s ridiculous. You will never hear the end of it too from some of the community too complaining about re hashed and re skinned weapons. Tbh they have a valid gripe and complaint.. Edit. I feel like I have to say I’m not talking about the exotics. I have enjoyed them quite a bit.

Very true. Even then. For what purpose? Running 4 years old strikes? Playing broken pvp and gambit? I mean look at that video you linked, weapons are not needed now, the new hunter grenade+slam is enough, and they don’t even need to aim.

Never gonna happen bro. The ship has sailed on this game becoming the experience we all hoped it would be from Y1D1, either enjoy what you have or get off the ride . The entire gaming industry is in a really bad place. Might be time to find a new hobby. I remember when we were all in an uproar during the era of companies releasing incomplete games and piecemealing us the rest via DLC. I'd kill for those days now. It's all about the microtransactions and games as a service now, and as long as they keep making metric buttloads of money they aren't going back. Sorry for being Debbie Downer but themz is facts.

I love how the community cried about reskins for years & now they're begging for more reskins lol

Sunsetting will be around for as long as the seasonal model is. They go hand in hand. When Bungie sunsets weapons and armor it forces the player base to chase new weapons/archetypes and armor. Probably one of the greatest examples of this would be the Mountaintop and Recluse. Prior seasons introduced great weapons like the ikelos smg and martyrs retribution, but no one really used them. Sunsetting the aforementioned made players use other weapons. I don’t mind sunsetting as long as weapons are introduced to fill the void. Armor sunsetting is absolutely terrible.

I would argue that limiting the number of weapons makes chasing a roll easier. It also presents the opportunity to actually try rolls out before vaulting forever or scrapping. When I see an interesting roll, I'll vault it for another character and forget about it. It then sits in the vault until deleted more often than not. My vault was full of weapons that I thought had interesting rolls - I deleted 90% when sunsetting was announced. Some had been in the vault since the beginning of D2. There was so much loot I never got around to trying a lot of weapon/roll/perk combos. Narrowing the selection should also make balance easier to achieve. I know, crazy idea huh? Fewer weapons should make the sandbox easier to tune and offer variety as a result. Wouldn't it be cool to be able to compete using whatever you wanted? The glass is half full or half empty... your perspective decides which it is for you.

Forget about the gear....the game is broken in so many ways and to much repetitive grind. This started well for me and 4 weeks later hardly playing.

Bungie could solve this issue very easily. [b]1. Rollback the sunsetting on armor:[/b] Armour never had any effect whatsoever on power creep. There was no armor equivalent to Mountaintop. This was nothing more than a blatant attempt artificially inflate play time, with artificial content grind. It is a waste of our collective time. Completely invalidates 5 of the destinations loot pools. Especially in the case of the Dreaming City and the Moon. But if they didn't, I suppose they couldn't just reissue the same iron banner armor to us ad nauseam. Remember when some people actually argued that Bungie would add more to the game and not just reskin everything. I hope those lies you peddled in Bungie's defense blister your throats. Aside from that tangent... [b]2. Allow weapons to roll with random elements again.[/b] Anyone remember D1? That game that did so many things so very well, that Bungie just kind of forgets about until they want to nostalgia bait? Yeah, that one, anyway, this would completely nullify the lack of weapons for archtype/damage type. It's mind boggling that armor, [b]armor[/b], can rolled with random damage types, but not weapons. [b]3. Unsunset all gear from the Dreaming City, and The Moon, as well as update Devrim's inventory.[/b] Gear from an EXPANSION from a year ago should not be useless. No destination's drops, should be useless. You might as well have deleted the entire destination, considering none of the gear drops have any value whatsoever. How could this get the go ahead? How could it go past every single person without someone bringing up what a confoundingly stupid idea it is, or the negative effect it would bring? Have you been breathing glue fumes exclusively? As an aside, you should also add exotic quests to some of the destinations. You did that for Chaperone for the Cosmodrome, and while many players already have these exotics, including a Moon questline for Bad Juju, and a dreaming city questline for Telesto (or whatever) would get new players to engage in those zones. The majority of exotics in the game shouldn't be found in a kiosk. If you want to be real cool, you could also add No Land Beyond and make it a quest from Devrim. But maybe there'd be a balancing issue. [spoiler]"Two extra months to make sure where ready, haha"[/spoiler] [b]4. Bring back factions:[/b] Have it be so when you pledge to a faction, you earn reputation with it like you do with Crucible, except in every activity. This doesn't require any knew items to be made. Update the old items, put them in an inventory. Have two random rolled guns a week. Have the armor purchasable at certain ranks (i.e. rank 3 gives you access to the mark/bond/cloak), or earnable in rank up packages. Put the ship or sparrow in for rank 20 or whatever. Provide shaders for rank up as well. Maybe bring back some of the good ones (i.e. ones from D1) if you're feeling ambitious enough to copy and paste. Update the faction rally weapons (the ones earned for a victory) and ornaments, and have them be a high tier reward, or earned through a questline. "But quests are-" shut up. Just do what you always do, and tie it to some stupid "kill fifteen thousand shanks with a blue sidearm" or "run 777 nightfalls because funny number 7 lol". If you're feeling especially ambitious, bring back the exotic class items. But only at your leisure. Wouldn't want to prompt your studio to get up earlier than 3:00PM to reskin a D1 item. "But we don't want to bring it back if it isn't perfect" horseshit. No one is buying it anymore. Having factions would be a good deal better than not having them at all. And most the crap I highlighted above 👆 would take no effort, and very little time. Most of it is already in the game, just not being used. [b]5. Realize that Destiny 2 shouldn't be World of Warcraft:[/b] Some people like overly elongated grinds, where they repeat the same menial task over and over again. Coincidentally, some people also seem to lack a functioning frontal lobe. I don't want to be passively playing your game. If I wanted to do something passive, I'd watch a movie. More focus on active and engaging content, less time on artificial level grind. [b]6. Reskin armor from D1's iron banner.[/b] Something needs to be done about Iron Banner, because this? This ain't working. Hasn't been working for... how long has this game been out? Iron Banner needs something. Yeah reskins are not what everyone wants, but when dealing with Bungie you tend to get better results when asking for the easier option. D1 armour looked great. Better than anything in D2, by several miles. Bring back the Iron Companion set. Hell, bring it back for the entire year. Every season. As long as I don't need to see anymore of your half assed Samurai-chic. Bring back some of the guns. Stop lazily putting a new symbol in the corner of guns already in the game, and add something not already in the game. [spoiler]wouldn't be so bad if the armour and weapons (weapons especially) didn't look like shit.[/spoiler] [b]7. Don't sunset any future weapons or armor moving forward.[/b] With the rate that Bungie is making weapons, and armour, and the rate at which they are sunsetting them, we will never have a deep loot pool. We will only ever have the bear minimum, if even that. This is especially true for certain weapon types, like bows and LMGs, which never should have been sunset in the first place. Also, special event weapons? Maybe don't sunset those, because now that I know that they have the lifespan of a bottle of ketchup, I really don't care to grind for them. In fact, I really don't care to grind at all. Not with the current state of the game, and not for the current loot. I'd be nicer Bungie, but being nice doesn't really work. Especially since you don't even read the feedback, except to add a charming and oh so witty one liner once every four months, to the most innocuous of posts. You've had all of my patience, and more than enough of my time. Hello to anyone who actually read this text block. There is no TL;DR, so you're just going to have to forfeit the immense knowledge that I deigned to share, or bear through my sardonic ramblings. [spoiler]As an aside, can you change dragonfly back to firefly, and also allow kinetic weapons to roll with it again? I just like to watch the flash and the fire.[/spoiler]

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