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11/29/2020 8:41:11 PM
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Why remove so much content and not replace it?
Levi gone
Scourge gone
Prophecy temporarily gone
And that’s a reallyyyyyyyy short list
What do we have now?
Short and repetitive empire hunts
1 new raid while losing 5 others....
A useless Nessus where all the content has been removed practically
The moon dropping all sunset gear??
I could go on but I’m not, bungo has outdone themselves and made the game boring
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15 RepliesThey remove about 2 years worth of stuff because the game is too big. You expect them to replace all that content in one dlc? Where did you come up with that idea?
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1 ReplyAlright, lets break this down... All the raids that got removed are useless and irrelevant. Sorry. The gear is pointless, and having EIGHT raids be "viable" is a disaster. The new raid, Last Wish and Garden are viable. Thats more than enough, they drop good gear, not as good as DSC, but still good. The old raids are pointless, besdies literally just Anarchy, and thats available anyway. Prophecy got "removed" likely due to Stasis and lighting change ect, and remember, Covid... it IS a real thing, so they likely just didnt have the time. Needless to say, im fine without it for now, theres more than enough weekly content, and maybe theyll bring it back with new loot to farm, who knows. Empire Hunts are the same concept as Nightmare Hunts. Its the same concept, not a valid criticism. You talk about Nessus being useless... but werent all the planets they removed useless? Isnt EDZ, Cosmodrome (for non New Light players) and most the locations useless? Not saying thats good, but the "use" of their planets has been bad since forever. Europa is a step in the right direction, but this isnt a new thing. The only thing removed from Nessus was... Actually nothing. The Menagerie thing isnt there now... which everyone just used for Xur anyway. Moon gear being sunset imo was a BIT of a mistake, ill agree, but its not to the extent that i care that much. I havent even been to the Moon since BL launched. I just dont think any of these complaints are valid.
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1 ReplySo they can reuse it and sell it back to you later on, that's all sunsetting is. Anyone who believes anything else is just a fool....
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I'm going to give everyone some advice. If you have a problem with the this game, other games, Bungie, other developers, the industry as a whole and you want change? It's a two (2) step plan and both have to be done in order to get all of the industry "normalities" to end. First off, state your issue or issues in clear, consist, stoic language. You have got to stop with the emotional charged speeches. Not just the topics but you have to stop using emotional language in your posts. Bungie is a company first and do not understand any circumstance care about you, your situation, your family or anyone else's life unless it seems to be a social charged subject, such as; religion, politics, social issues, (i.e; gender, race, sexual preference and so on) and only care if it seems to open up the demographic to potential customers. This is about only one thing: money. So in the plainest of terms; make your case, state the details of the issue and wait patiently for a response. If a quick and consist response does arrive, move on to second step. Second, this is the most important part of this step towards constructive and position changes to not just our favorite game but for this industry as a whole. You have to have the will, the fortitude, to stop spending money and your valuable time on these companies by playing the games they're wasting both of the resources you give them. The will not, I repeat, will not stop this course of action if you (the gaming community as a whole) continue to support them no matter what they do. Bungie's staff and Bungie's investors want results in the form of your play time and your money. If they don't have either of those, over time, they won't have either until they make meaningful changes. If you do these two (2) things, you'll start to see change. Emotionally charged, ultimatum lined posts aren't going to change anything. Take your time and money somewhere else till they change. I hope this helps you all.
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1 ReplyI'm from Argentina and i'm playing a lot of Destiny 2 since September. i played Also a couple of weeks in 2019 and Even less days in 2018 when it was free on battle net. So i have the Forsaken and SK expansion as well as BL. I ve been doing a Lot of things in so much destinations, But it was until this last couple of days that i realize that the Dreaming City is a hell of a place, beautiful and with so much to do! I did a Lot of quests and other sht on the moon cause i came back recently to the Game and i wanted to play the last expansion i diddnt know (Sk). But know, i'm really dissapointed because of the sunsetting. i can't get cool gear from this beautiful destination that is The Dreaming City (the blind well, the ascendant challanges, etc) i would love if Bungie fix this crap, cause some players like me are kind of new and didnt experience such cool places and things yet. I played the Forsaken campaing 2 years ago, But i never pay attention to other things than the main quests. I know that maybe is My problem because of not playing in that Forsaken time, that maybe Bungie never is going to listen and change things, But i think is very wrong to sunset loot from paid expansion and active destination. Even with this shtty decisión they make, I'm going to Persue My first triumph seal in the Dreaming City and no sunset is going to stop me. Best wishes for all, sorry for My Bad English. Latín american forums are shit.
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I believe the phrase [i]less is more[/i] is applicable to the current state of things.
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1 ReplyCovid. The pandemic has created tough times for everyone. But hey, did you hear about Saint 14 and Osiris?
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Edited by Trafalgar_Lou: 12/1/2020 11:58:06 PMBecause Bungie haven’t cared about anything but money for ages. Deej jumped the sinking ship and hardly any of the original team are left. Games is hollow shell of its predecessor funding bungie through payed expansions in a supposedly F2P game and the cash shop lmfao
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Edited by Knox Knox: 12/1/2020 5:59:21 PM[quote]Levi gone Scourge gone Prophecy temporarily gone And that’s a reallyyyyyyyy short list What do we have now? Short and repetitive empire hunts 1 new raid while losing 5 others....[/quote] I wanna make a correction here. There is a misrepresentation about this comparison. We lost 5 raids. That's it. We didn't lose 5 raids in exchange for 1 new raid. That is wrong. The new raid always comes in with the new expansion. There is always a new Raid that comes every year. It's not an exchange. One new Raid always comes every year. It comes with the content that you pay for in an expansion. Regardless if they take out old raids or not, a new Raid will always be added and paid for every year. It's not an exchange. A new raid comes this year, maybe a new one comes on Witch Queen, and then maybe another new one comes at Lightfall. There will always be a new Raid coming every year. And it's not an exchange. You already pay for it with the content of that expansion. So, technically, we just lost 5 old raids for nothing. A content that we already paid for when their respective expansions came out. That's it. Nothing was exchange for them. We just lost them. For good. That's my 2 cents of it.
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They want you to grind the story out on all 3 characters since it’s so damn long along with the subclass grind and do the raid until the next expansion lol
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By the end of year 3 we should have it all back
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They need to empty the game to ask you to pay to fill it again. Aka content
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2 Replies[quote]Levi gone Scourge gone Prophecy temporarily gone And that’s a reallyyyyyyyy short list What do we have now? Short and repetitive empire hunts 1 new raid while losing 5 others.... A useless Nessus where all the content has been removed practically The moon dropping all sunset gear?? I could go on but I’m not, bungo has outdone themselves and made the game boring[/quote] Service team pretending to be a development team. Most of Bungie is working on a different game. This is what you get when you don't have external development houses working for you.
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6 RepliesNeed more pvp maps
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5 raids 1 good farming activity and 1 Tribute Hall that costed alot Thats just leviathan
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2 RepliesWonder if old planets will come back, or we get new ones....new galaxy?! New enemies? New weapons? The game feels dead now. So much less to do. I just came off a 4 month break to find this crap too....
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Yawn.
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I think the reason for this mostly was to de-scale the game before rescaling it later. For people on console, this new expansion (if they didn't vault content) would of made the game reach close to 200mb of storage space which is absurd when only a small fraction of the player base actually plays through the old year 1 content. I think the bigger issue is providing content that has minimal bugs. So far this has been season of the broken. Im enjoying the faster load times though.
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1 ReplyBecause Activision is gone and they invited the mobile game company to show them how to make money without putting much effort into the game.
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Because, making content is hard. Bungie: *Keep this archaic game engine going, it won't ever need a replacement ever, neither will the servers, we can just drag and drop content, without playtesting, because budget cuts and content cuts.*
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1 ReplyYa.. Nessus... What are we supposed to do there. Nothing new. VENDORS same old gear. Cosmodrome.. nothing. No new Gear. The Vendor sells nothing. The Planet offers nothing. Europa... Has no Direct purchase options for Gear. Must do the 3 Quests for rotating Weapons. Needs a Top Map Travel Spot.
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8 RepliesThat isn’t the problem because that problem exists still in new content. The problem is the creating the vault and ability to be able to remove content from code takes much more work to than to actually un-blam!- the problems with their code. The problem is a few things. First - They don’t know how nor understand how MMOs handle old content. Hence they think removing content is the game’s world somehow evolving. Second - When it comes to replay ability and content. They don’t actually improve the content to be dynamic nor create that is replay-able. Look no further than Story content being impossible to replay because you’re not even given the option to unless you delete a character. This in particular gets further -blam!-ed over because New Light instead throws new players at end-game activity and places its story behind a vendor and is still only playable once. It wasn’t used often because they didn’t want it to be or they are idiots. Third - The end-game they do provide is pretty lacking in comparison to many MMOs. MMOs tend to have better items each expansion and force you to level up to tackle the new content. This is standard in just about in Online games and RPGs with level systems. Here they say, we want players to use our new stuff so we’re going to make everything not in our new expansion useless only to offer up one strike to play while that will still drop the useless gear. In short, they diluted loot because they include old gear in new content. Now, they wonder why people still use the old equipment. To summarize, all of their problems stem from one thing. They have failed to understand their own game and really thought about the problems they are having. This isn’t on QA, Programmers, or Artists. They have problems with their own design process and even then it’s most likely the leadership making the calls. These problems they are having were questions that MMOs and previous GaaS years ago.
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Don't forget the Dreaming City. All its gear was sun-set too.
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Why are people complaining about this still? It's already been like 3 weeks since it happen. I think it's time to move on. There was really no point in holding old content in which a large part of the "[i]community[/i]" would not be playing. Here is an example, do you still play the nightmare from the moon public event, or better yet, are you still playing any of the old content from Forsaken or Shadowkeep? Do you see anyone doing old content that's not a new player or completionist? No, right? So why are you complaining? [quote]Short and repetitive empire hunts[/quote] Everything in the game is repetitive like any other game [quote]1 new raid while losing 5 others...[/quote] You still have LW and GoS? what you got bored them too? [quote]A useless Nessus where all the content has been removed practically[/quote] They could have remove it and you would still complain about the same thing! [quote]The moon dropping all sunset gear??[/quote] Because it was the last year's content, they did the same with forsaken. Did people complain? yes, a little probably like 3.5-5% of the community [quote]I could go on but I’m not, bungo has outdone themselves and made the game boring[/quote] Hey, if you feel like it's boring, [b][i]Anthem[/i] [/b]is there for you! A much better Destiny game!
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Laughs with ESO with all DLC and no worries about file size since the dev's revised their code bringing it from over 100gb to maybe 75gb?
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1 ReplyThere will be more content. Just ne patient. I think that's why people are unhappy with Beyond Light, they are impatient
