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11/24/2020 8:44:48 PM
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Because they didn't do wrong. It was a very much needed nerf.
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Now, they just need to nerf the Jug Titans.
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Hunters are the ones who need a nerf. Bouncing freezing shurikens around corners and ice tornadoes that last way too long.
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Ice shurikens suck and their super losses to both other stasis ones 🤦♂️
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why would the hunter super need a nerf, out of all the stasis supers its the worst one and its so slow
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The game is bigger than the Crucible. Bungie broke the melee for pve. It’s basically useless because it’s dangerously unreliable.
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If you can’t use 10 meters of range that’s a big YOU problem...
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No. It’s an indication that these changes were not very well tested in pve play before they were rushed out a week after the release of the dlc. Penumbral blast is like a shotgun with no damage drop off.....so it does NO DAMAGE if you shoot it at a target at 17m.... ....and JAMS and won’t fire at all if you try to shot it at 7m. And in a game that has fast rushing adds, and teleporting adds that makes it dangerously unreliable. Especially in solo play. This is unacceptable.
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Fast rushing or teleporting... 10 meters is MORE than enough room for an instant aoe freezing melee ability 🤷♂️
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Edited by kellygreen45: 11/27/2020 11:32:19 AMClearly you either don’t play this game or haven’t been paying attention. (Just saw your profile. You haven’t even played as a Warlock in Beyond Light yet so you clearly just don’t know what you’re talking about) A Taken thrall or a Fallen captain can easily TELEPORT distances longer than 10m. Vandals will go invisible and rush for distances longer than that. Bungie just screwed this up. The lack of damage drop off was reasonable for an attack with a range of 28m (THATS hand cannon range) . It is not reasonable for one with a range of only 16m where the game has been returned to make adds faster, more aggressive, more numerous and more lethal. Which is why every [i]reasonable [/i] critic agrees that the nerf to penumbral blast was excessive, and left it in a broken state in pve.
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Edited by Unbrandedpie: 11/27/2020 12:29:39 PMCaptains teleport.. ads rush... and you can catch them off the teleport and catch them when they rush... also catch anything around them due to AOE... Any REASONABLE critic can still see that Warlock have the most ways to freeze enemies and if you think one of those ways becoming a little more challenging to use ruins the class it shows just how much you rely on enemies being frozen to get through content...
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True but when they both share the same sandbox its a change that had to be made.
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No it doesn’t. It’s only a change that had to be made when pvp is trapped in a comp shooter paradigm. One that is not compatible with a loot game. But RPGs have pvp that is a contest of build strength, and their players accept that it’s just for fun and there are no e-sport paydays coming. If this game is every going to reach its potential in pve, it needs a paradigm shift in pvp. Because it is an anchor around the neck of pve.
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To the unskilled sure. Just give it back it's range. The danger with warlock melee abilitues is if swung to far we have HHSN all over again.
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RPGs don’t let pvp hold the sandbox hostage. If you’re going to play pvp in an mmo like WoW, everyone knows that it’s going to be a contest of build-strength as well as skill. But this game needs to stop indulging the fantasy that it’s some sort of competitive game of skill. Because it’s slowly choking the like out of the fun of playing the game on the pve side. The side that is the majority of the player base, and pays the game’s bills.
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Don't be fooled. PvP is also part of keeping the game alive. A sizeable chunk play there. Enough for it to be noticed. Seperating the sandboxes would be nice but that's too much like hard work for Bungie.
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Edited by kellygreen45: 11/26/2020 11:02:12 AMProbably not possible without a complete rebuild of the entire game. Not saying pvp needs to go. But the kind of pvp experience provided needs to change. This game needs to stop pretending it’s an e-sport.
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The people playing need to stop pretending it's an e sport. It's never going to be one.
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Preaching to the converted, Pastor......
