[quote]The super nerf I get. The light has a splash freeze effect and the heavy insta-kills frozen targets AND it has absurd range that goes through walls. The melee? Like, why? You thaw out before you can even break out. There's no chase option either, it'll just be used to stop screaming apes, which can be done by Glacier already. Coldsnap was needing a nerf. It tracks around cover, insta-freezes, and chains. Duskfield might pull enemies away from cover, but at least they can fight back for a few seconds and hope to get the kill before they get killed in return. If you get Coldsnapped, it's a death sentence. Maybe you can jump to avoid it, but that puts you at risk of being duck hunted. Personally I'd like to see the melee get buffed to 20 meters with a 2 second freeze duration OR have it's speed increased by 20% again, so Warlocks have a chase option. That's the only thing that's really needing a change right now. Once we get the other Aspects and can further enhance the class, we'll know more about what should and shouldn't be nerfed/buffed.[/quote] Sure but how long will it take them to put any power back INTO shadebinder?

Does it really need more power? The super is basically top tree Dawn but with freezey powers and can shatter through walls. With top tree you have to at least aim, with Shade you can splash freeze someone behind cover and shatter them, all from the safety of your own cover. Right now the super is fine. I don't know about pve, I'm a Hunter main, but for pvp it's still very powerful. Like I said, my main issue is the melee now. Shades don't have any chase options. Revenants have Bakris and Behemoths have Cryoclasm to both evade and chase. Shades have... Well, they don't have much of either since players will thaw before they can break out from the melee.

[quote]Does it really need more power? The super is basically top tree Dawn but with freezey powers and can shatter through walls. With top tree you have to at least aim, with Shade you can splash freeze someone behind cover and shatter them, all from the safety of your own cover. Right now the super is fine. I don't know about pve, I'm a Hunter main, but for pvp it's still very powerful. Like I said, my main issue is the melee now. Shades don't have any chase options. Revenants have Bakris and Behemoths have Cryoclasm to both evade and chase. Shades have... Well, they don't have much of either since players will thaw before they can break out from the melee.[/quote] Yes it does. It should be at the same power level as the other two classes. This was a huge over correction. It just needed tuning and not nerfed into the ground.