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Edited by Bowsers Enabled: 11/27/2020 1:49:18 PM
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Stasis in PVP is the worst of every meta over 7 years rolled into one.

It’s not going to go away and all the matches revolve around your recharge rates and chucking stasis at each other. This is extraordinarily boring. Edit: I don’t know what anyone is talking about in respect to what guns anyone is using. I don’t pay attention and I tend to use ARs and scouts. If you are here complaining about previous seasons/years/metas, that is my point with stasis. It is all of that plus whatever the gun meta is. Edit 2: Because there might be confusion. I am not getting wrecked by Stasis. I play mid range, so I don’t have a lot of direct pain from it. Edit 3: Thnks Bungie, in less than a month, you created a shotgun/sniper meta. Most mid range guns aren’t capable of taking down a shotgun ape and because of Stasis, it’s either freeze em and charge or snipe from long range. This isn’t a natural meta and it shows.

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  • [quote]It’s not going to go away and all the matches revolve around your recharge rates and chucking stasis at each other. This is extraordinarily boring.[/quote] Agreed ^^ 200% A grenade that freezes you in comp is the worst spam I have dealt with in pvp (pretty much ever) The ONLY thing more annoying was full teams running the original vex mythoclass.

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    • Guys power creep with weapons looks like we gotta sunset them it’s a real issue with crucible guys we are limiting weapons in higher tier crucible because they are power creep we are sunsetting them because they have and are the power creep haha anyways power creep with weapons? Yeah we are sunsetting hope you understand now in new season we begin less power creep with [b]ice[/b]

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      • I think what would fix the freezing people part would be your teammates being able to break you out of it and you take no damage. That would fix a lot honestly.

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        I dont mind the idea of freeze but it shouldnt freeze you completely, just your movement perhaps, so you can still shoot but not much else until you button bash out. It doesn't bother me particularly, I rarely find myself actually being frozen though but I can understand why it would most.

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      • Unfortunately, what you’re saying is 100% true

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      • The main problem is the freeze ability are way too potent. I don’t mind being slowed. We already have abilities that cause that. But being frozen long enough for someone to do an emote before cracking you is unacceptable. I was playing a match yesterday where my buddy had just got dropped by a warlock. I had the drop on him, so I tapped his head with my eyastringer. Hit a second on his head too. But by then his tracking melee reached me from about mid range and I was frozen. It turned the tide immediately. I could not counter it. I could not do anything. This is not how crucible should reward players.

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      • Yea it’s pretty dumb but as it seems ranged gameplay seems to be the best counter for against stasis like snipers,scouts,pulse rifles just don’t charge in like an idiot lol and if you are standing in a zone and red is coming towards you on the radar like someone is pushing you expect 1 of three things to happen A. They are about to smash you with a super B. They are about to shove a shotgun,grenade launcher or heavy ammo down your throat or C. You’re about to get frozen from a grenade,melee etc case and point like I said your best defense seems to be keeping a little distance and I know there are some broke things about it but this by far isn’t the first time we’ve dealt with broken gameplay

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      • Maybe Bungo wanted to make PVP a more "whacky" experience...... Paul Tassi is usually quite reserved, but even he was pissing himself laughing over stasis in PVP.

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      • Edited by ZΣRO: 11/13/2020 3:09:26 PM
        I dont know but yeah i enjoy getting outplayed with skill while standing like a Mannequin 5 secs getting outplayed with perfect aim standing there thats highlevel skill right there sure movement matters but iam just saying standing there frozen being outplayed on spot sure i shouldnt take pvp that serious but i want to achive a goal in pvp like valor ranks + comp for lightlevel i mean pvp is fun for me but its not that fun anymore when you get frozen with highlevel intelligent skill

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      • Spare benders was worse. Just adjust how you play instead of crying nerf.

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        • Someone upset they can't triple team 1 person because now stasis will punish apes up each others arses 24/7

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          • Nah, it’s actually pretty fun. The time spent frozen and the length of the unfreezing animation could use some work, but overall it’s not too frustrating. As of now, I just stop trying once I’m frozen, but speeding up the unfreezing animation by a bit will make it a tad bit easier to deal with.

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            • 100% agree. Being crowd controlled for that long is guaranteed death. Even if you get on the button instantly you're still screwed. Horrible to think this made it through testing. Instant of freezing how about it just slows guardians down.

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            • It was ok until everyone got stasis. Now it’s just spamming O/B to no avail. It comes down to who can freeze who first. They should really nerf it to break away with a single tap when frozen. As it stands now, it’s just a free death.

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              • Stasis is worst than the double primary meta

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                • Oh my.. it’s pretty damn bad. Wtf were they thinking? Control is a shit show. -blam!-ing ice bergs every where. I can’t believe someone thought this was a good idea. Destiny is 90% PvP in terms of popularity

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                • It just punishes aggressive play.... you have to play super passive and use team mates as bait... but agree it’s very annoying to be frozen.... I survived the mei meta playing main tank though.... it’s not as bad as that

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                  • I've been having fun. Stasis is the casual crusher. It's shaken up the meta more than anything in Destiny's history. It'll get nerfed just wait...

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                  • I played my first PvP matches since beyond light earlier today, and man what a shit show that was.

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                  • I've been having a lot of fun personally. Most of my deaths have been from guns. Most of my kills have been with...guns. Stasis hasn't appeared to have hindered me, but I admit it's still early. I'm very much looking forward to how PVP changes and evolves with this addition.

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                  • Trials is going to be interesting today.

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                    • I think that Stasis is right where it needs to be. It literally made it through play testing because it’s not a bad subclass but I think the real problem is that Stasis shows who’s good or not in crucible and that’s just the honest truth. I understand that the freezing can be frustrating because it’s one-shot, ok but removing it isn’t gonna help how about simply making it way easier to escape but taking a health penalty for it. People in this community whine about everything and want things handed to them. It’s been literally 2 days after launch and people are complaining and even before people complained! How about actually get good at the game and figure out a way to outplay a stasis wielder if your a real pvp player, enjoy the class for what it is because it’s time for change.

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                    • I wrote a very long form about this and you said it so bluntly. And you got it 100% right. Hope they nerf this dumb ice. I feel like they added it for symbolism that there is a pay wall for content.

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                      • at least everybody has the chill pill.

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                      • Even though I find it a pain at times, at leased it changes the maps up a bit. Over all its better.

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                      • Do you like being frozen and not being able to play at all for ten seconds?

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