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10/23/2020 4:06:45 PM
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[quote]slightly Nerfing Autos[/quote] I don't think you know how numbers work. They are reducing Auto crit damage from 15.75 to 14.25 (previously 13.75 in Season of the Worthy). That means ARs are getting 75% of their crit damage increase removed. I would consider that more than slight. For me, I don't really mind that 140 was chosen over 150, the only part about it that doesn't really make sense is now we have 120 RPM vs 140 RPM, which is not a huge difference, I'm wondering if 120s will be overshadowed by 140s, we will have to wait and see.
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  • You are correct and it WOULD be a significant enough nerf IF they left 150's as... 150's. What happens now is: 600 RPM going from 0.73 to 0.8 ttk and the changes from the best TTK HC is: 0.8 (150 ttk) to 0.87 (140 ttk) So, all they did was make the 2 primaries slower yet still have AR's on top. One of the most used archetypes are becoming slower, that is it. And that is the issue a lot have because nothing will change. The difference in TTK is still the same but they are both now slower and ARs are still more forgiving than HC's.

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  • Umm, 15.75 being lowered to 14.25 is not a 75% reduction in damage. Damage would only be 3.94 per bullet if it was lowered by 75 percent.

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  • Starting Equation: [quote]"ARs are getting 75% of their crit damage increase removed"[/quote] Equation 1: [quote]"their crit damage increase" = 15.75 - 13.75 = 2 damage[/quote] Equation 2: [quote]"75% of their crit damage increase" = "75% of" 2 damage = 0.75*2 damage = 1.5 damage[/quote] Substitute Equation 2 into Starting Equation: [quote]"ARs are getting 1.5 damage removed"[/quote] The maths checks out. My point was to say that ARs were not meta or OP in Season of the Worthy, so bringing us 75% of the way back to that point means that ARs are getting more than a slight nerf.

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  • [quote]Starting Equation: [quote]"ARs are getting 75% of their crit damage increase removed"[/quote] Equation 1: [quote]"their crit damage increase" = 15.75 - 13.75 = 2 damage[/quote] Equation 2: [quote]"75% of their crit damage increase" = "75% of" 2 damage = 0.75*2 damage = 1.5 damage[/quote] Substitute Equation 2 into Starting Equation: [quote]"ARs are getting 1.5 damage removed"[/quote] The maths checks out. My point was to say that ARs were not meta or OP in Season of the Worthy, so bringing us 75% of the way back to that point means that ARs are getting more than a slight nerf.[/quote] Both HC and 600 ARs are getting a .07 ttk nerf. Ar’s will be .08 HC’ .87 It’s the same thing.

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  • True, going from 150 to 140 is a nerf for all 150 HCs, although, worth noting it is NOT a nerf for current 140s, Old Fashioned and Ace of Spaces in particular will become much more viable. The additional range will also increase effective TTK for HCs at longer ranges. I would have preferred to see a longer range buff for 140s and especially 120s. It is a step in the right direction, but I agree it is not far enough. My only point was saying ARs only got a slight nerf is not properly representing the change. In Season of the Worthy, ARs were not meta, not even close. Now we are reverting 75% of the initial change, so even though ARs will still be viable, they will not be the meta pick.

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  • Overlooked the word increase in your post, I stand corrected.

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