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9/7/2020 5:20:18 PM
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BRING BACK AUTO LOADING

In quest to keep us using different things and to keep the game from getting stale...you failed and instead made the game stale since the only weapons anyone uses on bosses anymore is snipers or anarchy, https://youtu.be/coQ7Hk38up4 No more rat king no more rockets , no more outbreak, no more ....anything but izzanagis , whisper or xeno , i don't even feel like raiding anymore , only fun thing left is doing rivens nails with swords but only 2 swords are viable and one of them are being sunset, more bullets in magazines more fun!!!

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  • Auto loading is too overpowered. It made it so you could 1 phase every boss in the game. There’s enough diversity in pve now. There’s plenty of viable options now.

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    • Edited by TheArtist: 9/9/2020 11:52:04 AM
      No. No. No. No. No. If you want weapon (build) diversity, then you need to FIX the weapons that have been rendered non-viable. Like the fact that every rocket in the game (except the exotics) only have one round int he mag, and ridiculously long reloads. Hopefully with sunsetting, Bungie will no longer feel the need to nerf weapons into the ground and make them unusable in order to create room for new stuff. You also get there by designing BETTER raid boss fights. Fights that involve more than standing in a Well of Radiance/Ward of Dawn and then dumping damage on a stationary boss. You dont' get there by breaking the weapon system, and removing any sort of DPS ceiling on the player. Games that do that wind up broken. Player power gets out of control...and then the devs inevitably push back by TUNING the game to that ridiculous level of power. The result is either a game that is tedious-to-unplayable if you don't have that broken gear to use..... ...or a game that has been mashed flat and you're FORCED to use that broken gear if you have it. Turning them into a set of Golden Handcuffs (OG The Reckoning). Part of the reason I stopped raiding as a Warlock main is I got sick-and-tired of having my loadout decided FOR me all the time. Well of Radiance, Lunafaction boots, and whatever the heavy weapon meta was with the expectation of one-phasing every boss fight.

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      • Variety has surely died, but apparently that's a problem because its mere existence and effectiveness against bosses expose their garbage design and 0 health gating to keep the fight going as intended. Challenge was not created by removing it, they just covered their asses where they've failed and refuse to improve on.

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      • Autoloading bypassed some main dps checks of the raids, bungie doesnt want you skipping half the encounter cuz you have a full auto grenade launcher

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      • So your one example in there of fun is CHEESING A BOSS? Dude you are so -blam!-ing pathetic and it’s so painfully obvious your bad at th whale asking for auto reloading, auto reloading with double primary’s maybe but now? Hell no dude that shit is -blam!- and unnecessary, garden is how it should be, 99% of teams 2 phasing,

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      • Edited by Ari: 9/7/2020 10:30:39 PM
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        The problem isn't that perk, the problem are raids themselves, they need to rework every raid, and make them more casual friendly with matchmaking.

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        • Queenbreaker’s Bow is an afternoon underestimated dps monster.

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          • Lunafactions should have their auto loading perk readded, as they were an exotic that enhanced an ability. Rally barricades should stay how they are now but maybe add a similar exotic for Titans

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            • Absolutely not. Autoloading is so unhealthy. It never should have existed in the first place.

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            • Auto loading was so broken and boring. Lunafactions, well, 6 150 spike gls/prospectors and you completely evaporate anything. It’s not skillful, you don’t need a very specific or hard to acquire build, it’s just unfun. Fun DPS metas are like liars handshake, combination blow, one two punch shotgun. You can kill nightfall final bosses in two punches but A. you need to be in melee distance of a boss, which is risky and sometimes not possible, and B. you have to set it up with combination blow. Fun DPS metas are like the current falling guillotine meta. You need a very specific roll on a specific sword, you need lucent blade and charged with light mods, you have to set it up by getting yourself charged with light, and again you need to be in sword range of a boss which again is sometimes not possible anyway. It destroys bosses hilariously fast but it is high risk high reward and it doesn’t even work all the time. The sniper DPS meta was fun. Grinding out good rolls on Sole survivor and Long shadow so that you can crit a boss 11 times consecutively without reloading IF you hit all headshots which is not easy.

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              • God no, just no i prefer it this way especially since I can use more exotics then be forced to used lunafactions, and honestly it’s much better this way

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              • There’s pros and cons here - but the real problem is that we don’t have enough meta diversity and the meta has been stale all year long. I love to speed run raids. Auto reloading would definitely allow us to get faster times in Garden for example. However, auto reloading was also boring and predictable. It was not sustainable to be able to auto reload all weapons forever. With that said, you can still have optimal DPS and one phase raid bosses with weapons we have now - without auto reload. Izi/Wendigo & Reload Cancel is just one strat for the GOS final boss. The problem is that that was the meta since GOS came out last year and we are due for some sandbox updates to give more diversity and flexibility to achieve optimal DPS.

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                • No.

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                • Auto loading was a 0 skill meta. We need the sniper nerf reverted, the izanagi honed edge reload speed increased, and PROPER reload cancelling. Then we would be on a path to a skillful meta again.

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                  • Autoloading was awful

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                    • The only guns people use on bosses are snipers and anarchy... Xenophage, divinity and swords. That's 3 more.

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                      • I think auto reload should only work on primary weapons.

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                      • no A better solution is to revisit power weapon balancing. For example, Rocket Launchers should get a substantial damage buff to make them viable. We don't need to go back to GL spam on all bosses.

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                      • Auto loading is terrible imo, promotes little care about shooting and aiming due to no reload times. Buuuut now that it’s gone, all the nerfs that came due to auto loading should be undone. THAT I can get behind.

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                        • Can you imagine 6 witherhords and autoloading The game would crash

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                          • Remember when lmgs were actually good? Ever since the damage nerf to majors and ultras they've been shit. Rockets need tracking intrinsically built in with at least 2 rounds. Linear fusion rifles need more damage as well as having good body shot damage if they're going to stay as heavy weapons. Fusion rifles need their range back for pve to be useful again. Sniper damage nerf needs to be reverted to make them strong again. Bungie runs everything they touch.

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                            • Pretty much why the only weapons I use for PvE have auto holster as their main perk. Just shoot till empty, switch weapons and cycle through.

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                            • They need to either give it back to warlocks and titans, or take it away from hunters and reverse the nerfs they did because of auto reloading. It's fascinating they took away auto reloading from titans and warlocks claiming that it trivialized pve. Yet, they allowed hunters to keep their reload dodge. So it's ok if hunters break the game but not warlocks and titans. It's amazing so many people are content with this bullshit.

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                              • They should just make every class ability reload your weapons like dodge. Drop a barricade or rift, your weapon reloads. Only works on the user not the fire team.

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                              • Don’t nerf anything!!!! EVER!!!!! UNNNNNLIMITED POOOOWWWWWEEEERRRR!!!!!!!

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                                • Edited by COMBATICUS: 9/9/2020 7:35:55 AM
                                  Dont worry another go fast update will be available when the game sales slow down alot. And then you'll see a developers diary on YouTube about how they never intended the game to get stale, so they will make a go fast 2.0. Then a month later when everyone falls for their tricks, they will nerf and make a go slow update and slowly start butchering things that everyone asked to be buffed or fixed or balanced. Then they will go silent for couple of months and make a really cool looking trailer about some event or dlc or season but when you play it. It's the same B.S. everyone still complaining about lol. I swear I never thought this would be so easy got bungie. I mean how long most of us been playing and enjoy destiny? But yet bu give keeps doing the same exact B.S. year after year. And ppl still supporting and buying dlcs and preordering without knowing what you'll get. Then come back here and say how pathetic the dlc is and how bungie dont care Listen most of us including myself like/love destiny. Some for lore, some got the gameplay, we all have something that we like about it. But it's not going to evolve, or get better or see any fixes if ppl keep throwing money at Luke Smith, and then come here and contain. Just speak with your wallet. I have stop playing as much as I did, and even got a refund on the Nov dlc. And I havent seen so much emails from bungie that keeps saying "this is a perfect time to come back" or "look what's new, you might want to get it before its gone" I have been getting emails to basically come back and play lol. But with ps5 around the corner and so many great games that I'm looking forward to, that destiny just ain't doing it no more. This sun setting alone just made my appetite for the game disappear.

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