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Edited by oper10: 8/20/2020 1:42:32 AM
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Riven Cheese, a poll

Please Fix

39

Never Fix

250

Couldn't Care

186

I'm interested to see the player opinions on this one. Edit: 18 hours in, interesting results. It seems pretty close between "Never Fix it" and "Don't care" Thanks to everyone for their participation thus far.

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  • Never done it "properly" & I'm fine with that

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    • Here’s a question Who HAS defeated Riven legitimately? Be truthful now! 😆

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      • Edited by Apollo_XIX: 8/22/2020 10:51:23 PM
        While I would like to see the fight fixed because it's demanding, fun, and just thematically cool; I don't really care at this point. I've had my fun with it, and they haven't done anything at this point to try and fix it

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      • Effort to reward ration doesn't really match, so if they wanna fix it they should give us 2 keys for completion.

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      • It’s not a cheese just a strategy

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        • After 23 Last Wish full clears, I’ve done the cheese very single time. I never intend on doing it legit.

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          • "As long as the job gets done, I don't care about the rest."

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          • Bungie came out and said that it's apart of the raid. They literally allowed the cheese and said it was a legitimate way to beat Riven. If Bungie allows it then why would they fix it?

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            • Edited by Cho: 8/19/2020 7:42:23 AM
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              Riven legit really isn’t that hard, it just has the community perception of being difficult because most people don’t know how to do it simply because the cheese exists. I’d reckon if the cheese didn’t exist people would be less afraid of it because in being forced to do it, they would see it isn’t hard. But the raid is almost 2 years old so it’s basically pointless to fix it now

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              • People that want it fixed need to understand this: it is entirely possible to kill her in 1 floor without "joining allies". To do it "legit" as people say, would require all 6 people to intentionally tank their DPS, possibly ignoring damage phases altogether. The only purpose for "joining allies" is to remove the rng factor at the start of the fight. Everything else can be done in a legit setting.

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                • I've done Last Wish 50 times now, and I can assure you 40 to 45 of them have been Riven legit. It's a cheese, Raids are meant to be challenging. It should be fixed and I'm sorry but if you or your team cannot or doesn't want to learn the fight, YOU'RE the problem.

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                • I don't care how other players beat an encounter.

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                  • One Orb strat

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                      What a waste of time it would be to fix the encounter. Literally nobody cares except for losers on the forum trying to force others to play how they like.

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                      • Beat it legit the first few times. It really wasnt hard. The way it is done now, just saves time. People need to get over their sad gaming egos.

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                        • Who cares... Doing it the correct way is not bad. Don't know why people still do the cheese... It's like the Oryx encounter where people left the Ogres alive; it was much easier to do it the intended way.

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                        • I just hate calling things cheese when the devs clearly don't care to patch it.

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                        • just hope DSC boss is like riven with no cheese

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                        • I've never done Riven legit and I dont plan to. Awful boss mechanics.

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                          • I pick option 4: Why do people even care at this point?

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                            • I kinda wish they would, but I think the real problem with Last Wish was that they allow you to just skip every encounter in the raid. It's such a good raid but most people just skip the entire thing, that sucks.

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                            • Nah every kill I did on that dragon was one cheese or another Death by rockets Death by grenades Death by paper cuts by swords. I find it hilarious and fun. Mainly because someone screws up and dies.

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                            • I have never defeated Riven legit. Over 90 kills / chest openings and roughly 45 - 50 queenswalk all by cheese method. Everyone i have even completed Last Wish with has 1000 voices. I may run it on my sons account for 1k but if they fix it I won't bother.

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                              • At this point it doesn't matter much. I just hope people tried doing it legit at least before using the cheese.

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                                • I don’t care now that I have cheesed my way to 1k voices. I don’t like raids but Bungie FORCES me to play them to get the exotics. It’s not fair to the pvp players. IT’S NOT FAIR!!!

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                                  • It's not really a cheese. It's a dps check. You either have enough dps or you wipe.

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