Bungie, the lag switches and network manipulators are way out of hand on console. There are already plenty of posts from people describing what is going on and the same sentiment is felt by all of us. Bungie doesn't care and won't do anything about it. All but a handful of my friends still play because of the lack of content and cheating and remaining ones play rarely because there just isn't any point. No real PVE rewards and PVP has consistent cheaters of one form or another. Your inept anti cheat is apparent to all of us including the cheaters. They know they are safe from punishment. Little by little you are losing the dedicated players and you'll only have cheaters left. Guess what, they aren't the ones who support a game. I will admit I had a huge laugh and sense of relief last week. Mid game I was notified my pre-order was refunded. All of my friends have chosen the refund. You won't get our money unless you fix the cheaters and provide some real content. Even then, you'll have to convince us to trust you again instead of putting our money into one of the new games coming out.