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Edited by Ferus Lux:
7/23/2020 4:05:15 AM
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Left unchecked, the Traveler is a cancer.
The Traveler is like a giant primordial cell that puts its light into the most complex or adaptive beings it can find. The Traveler is hard wired to just grow things, perpetuate life LONG past it's own good and over time, there will be nothing but over grown life, rot, blights, infestations etc. Nothing will ever die and so nothing will ever change.
Reminds me of a quote "So long as men die, liberty will never perish." Guardians don't even necessarily have their own free will because they don't even have their memory. They wake to a world governed by the Traveler: The first thing many see when they are told to look up.
The Traveler is an out of control cell that starts out creating beauty, but like every garden, it can and will get out of control. Imagine how disgusting the world would be if it was overgrown with the most vicious wildlife and inhospitable plant life each overgrown by pus, blights, and diseases that can only evolve and get worse and everyone will have them and they can never die but live in agony. It gets worse: imagine the stars which have long outlived their lifespan and are now blinding and burning with world ending intensity, fueled by light getting brighter and brighter.
The only respite from such a world would be death, which can never come, because in a universe governed by light, it doesn't exist and organisms continue to be birthed.
Now imagine a world where everything has it's time, gardens are well kept, forests and wild life are in equilibrium, and when something becomes too sick or old, it dies so it wont suffer. Every moment matters more and the sights are more beautiful because everything has its place. When the stars enter the final stage of their life span, all life in the galaxy will cease to be and the material that goes with it, may one day seed the potential for new life. Or maybe not.
This is the final shape and I'm not trying to be corny or sound edgy I swear but...its nice. This is the natural order of the lives we live. I'm not saying the Traveler is bad or evil, but like anything, it can live long enough to become bad. Conversely, aggressive competition is bad and will lead to the end of everything before anything new even has a chance to develope, and that's why we need a balance.
The Gardener and Winnower need to be slapped and limited. So let's get to taking out their command one by one.
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2 RepliesThis could be the truth, I will admit that, but look at what the traveler does. It makes garden worlds, these intricately made perfectly balanced utopian planets that likely lack any sort of predators. Look at what mercury was. Look at IO, Titan, Venus, planets that have been left with unchecked growth and it isn't full of death. The lore dab from the "Winnower" or something (I don't remember the name, but one of the ones from shadowkeep) suggests the "Gardener" flipped the script with Guardians, things of undeath are not usually made from the Traveler, and might I point out that one of the pyramids have also revived the dead, or has everyone forgotten the nightmares already? but I want to focus on something [quote]Imagine how disgusting the world would be if it was overgrown with the most vicious wildlife and inhospitable plant life each overgrown by pus, blights, and diseases that can only evolve and get worse and everyone will have them and they can never die but live in agony.[/quote] You know what that sounds like? THE HIVE. I will admit the never die part doesn't fit that part of the MO but where they go they bring [i]ROT[/i] Do we even have lore that shows the downsides of to much Light? Because all the evidence we have of it's downsides are from people influenced by the Dark or the Darkness itself, who either can't be trusted due to their mental state or it's in their best interest to put the Light in a dis-favorable position.
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2 RepliesGood news. The fifty-two moons of Fundament host a starfaring civilization far more sophisticated than anything you’ve encountered so far. Taox’s ship fled towards the large ice moon, where a species of bony six-armed cephalopods keeps their icy capital. Savathûn’s named them the Ammonite. They seem eager to grant Taox asylum. Idiots. We tried appealing to their hopes and dreams. This was largely unsuccessful, basically because they’re already happy and indoctrinated. This angered us, so we’ve devised a plan. Our organs detect a fifty-third moon in orbit of Fundament. A Traveler. Divine presence of the Sky. Now we know what arranged the syzygy. You’ll have to kill them all and take their stuff. Once the Ammonite are out of the way, we can deal with the Traveler. Do not hesitate. You’re fighting the hypocritical puppets of a cosmic parasite. Avenge your ancestors.
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25 Replies"Rolls eyes" Humanity would be dead and gone w/o any of the Travelers aid. Remind me again what'll happen if the hive or darkness win? Oh that's right, ahnilation of all Life. Even if there where no extreme cosmic forces an either end, we'd be dead against the cabal and even if we survive, it would just be enslavement like the psions. If you believe that guardians have little to no will, then explain the warlords un-biased or philosophically free actions to terrorize humanity.. Oh right because they think for themselves. Crazyyy!!! Oooooohhhh!!!!!
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26 RepliesI mean...the Gardener literally uses the Traveler as a means to cheat the system and help the weak survive the Game of Life. So...yes. The Traveler, and by extension, the Gardener, must be destroyed so that the strong could prevail as it should be.
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Please show us on the doll where the Traveler touched you...
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10 RepliesWhy are you talking about the traveler like it's going to make everything undying? Guardian are the only time it has done that and it had no other choice.
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3 Replies<I'm almost sure the Darkness will take care of the Traveler for us... so we'd just need to take down an unstoppable army.>
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2 RepliesBeen saying it since D1 the traveler is evil
