very true. HEAR THAT ME FANS YOU LOSE UNSC PAVES YOU OUT AND THEN PARKS THEIR VEHICLES ON YOU!!!!!!! (p.s. ME does have vehicles just really light armoured low firepower ones)

And about hround battles, UNSC wins easily. Having a huge collection of vehicles and weaponry is pretty handy... The Citadel Ground forces don't use heavy weapons and we don't know anything about their vehicles, so that measn they don't have any on the battlefield since making up vehicles is not allowed.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ROBERTO jh [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Terrible Ideas [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] egore11 Citadel Fleet Vs UNSC Fleet Citadel Wins. Citadel Fleet vs Covenant Fleet Citadel Wins with major losses Citadel Fleet Vs Forerunner Forerunners do not loose a single piece of metal Reapers vs Forerunners Forerunners win with few losses Prothean other Ancient Mass Effect Races vs Forerunners Forerunners win with large losses, but recover quickly Everything vs Percussors Percussors obliterate them with one shot, defying everything physics, and then rip through the dimensions. As they are Tier Zero, there unstoppable...they can create perfect life.[/quote] I was just reading through this thread, but my inner nerd will not stand this altercation and the temptation to join! The Reapers killed the Protheans. Every single one, not counting the ones who built a Mass Relay to the Citadel, which where killed by them eventually, indirectly. (Starvation, most likely.) The Reapers are beyond all the other races in the ME universe, and just one was only stopped after and entire fleet attacked it (with heavy losses) and it's shields where diverted, then brought down by Shepard. Reapers would tear apart almost any Halo vessel, and you can't use the 'We have Cortana!" argument either, Reapers are the ultimate state of being for A.I's, at least in the eyes of the Geth, which is a race composed entirely of A.I's. They are giant incarnations of what Cortona would be if she had a physical form that wasn't a hologram, only Reapers are [i] better [/i]. /Rant Allright, my inner nerd has vented. Back to reading.[/quote] my inner nerd compelled me to rejoin. A Covenant Corvette could kill Sovereign. Why? He uses ONLY kinetic shields and Corvettes use ONLY energy weapons. One well placed shot from the Corvette--the lightest warship in the Covenant fleet--could cripple or destroy Sovereign As for a Supercarrier...or the Forerunners who could destroy stars with their ship weapons, don't even get me started at how quick Sovereign would be vaporized.[/quote] I still woner how is wiping out such a weak race as the Protheans an achievement? Since Protheans had the same tech level as the asari their most powerful guns will be around 38 kilotons too, that's just frakking pathetic. An SMAC would easily one shot a Reaper... Why does nobody ever check the data and notice that ME and Halo are in other leagues if its about firepower, and ME is in the much lower one. And how how is being the pinnacle of AI evolution in a universe where and AI weaker then an UNSC Dumb AI is considered advanced being a pinnacle of AI evolution in Halo with fully sentient AIs? A Forerunner Contender class AI or a Monitor, those are more advanced then Reapers.

the only advantage that ME holds over the UNSC is their small arms ammo system, and kinetic barriers. even these advantages arent enough to win, marines could shoot through kinetic barriers very quickly and, with the Alliance's rubber armour the fight would be over after that. the ammo system would be formidable but easily overcome. in space the unsc could just nova bomb the relays and citadel, leaving them defenseless.

lol nova bomb... Shoot it into the sun, slip space away from said sun. Win.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Terrible Ideas [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] egore11 Citadel Fleet Vs UNSC Fleet Citadel Wins. Citadel Fleet vs Covenant Fleet Citadel Wins with major losses Citadel Fleet Vs Forerunner Forerunners do not loose a single piece of metal Reapers vs Forerunners Forerunners win with few losses Prothean other Ancient Mass Effect Races vs Forerunners Forerunners win with large losses, but recover quickly Everything vs Percussors Percussors obliterate them with one shot, defying everything physics, and then rip through the dimensions. As they are Tier Zero, there unstoppable...they can create perfect life.[/quote] I was just reading through this thread, but my inner nerd will not stand this altercation and the temptation to join! The Reapers killed the Protheans. Every single one, not counting the ones who built a Mass Relay to the Citadel, which where killed by them eventually, indirectly. (Starvation, most likely.) The Reapers are beyond all the other races in the ME universe, and just one was only stopped after and entire fleet attacked it (with heavy losses) and it's shields where diverted, then brought down by Shepard. Reapers would tear apart almost any Halo vessel, and you can't use the 'We have Cortana!" argument either, Reapers are the ultimate state of being for A.I's, at least in the eyes of the Geth, which is a race composed entirely of A.I's. They are giant incarnations of what Cortona would be if she had a physical form that wasn't a hologram, only Reapers are [i] better [/i]. /Rant Allright, my inner nerd has vented. Back to reading.[/quote] my inner nerd compelled me to rejoin. A Covenant Corvette could kill Sovereign. Why? He uses ONLY kinetic shields and Corvettes use ONLY energy weapons. One well placed shot from the Corvette--the lightest warship in the Covenant fleet--could cripple or destroy Sovereign As for a Supercarrier...or the Forerunners who could destroy stars with their ship weapons, don't even get me started at how quick Sovereign would be vaporized.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] egore11 Citadel Fleet Vs UNSC Fleet Citadel Wins. Citadel Fleet vs Covenant Fleet Citadel Wins with major losses Citadel Fleet Vs Forerunner Forerunners do not loose a single piece of metal Reapers vs Forerunners Forerunners win with few losses Prothean other Ancient Mass Effect Races vs Forerunners Forerunners win with large losses, but recover quickly Everything vs Percussors Percussors obliterate them with one shot, defying everything physics, and then rip through the dimensions. As they are Tier Zero, there unstoppable...they can create perfect life.[/quote] I was just reading through this thread, but my inner nerd will not stand this altercation and the temptation to join! The Reapers killed the Protheans. Every single one, not counting the ones who built a Mass Relay to the Citadel, which where killed by them eventually, indirectly. (Starvation, most likely.) The Reapers are beyond all the other races in the ME universe, and just one was only stopped after and entire fleet attacked it (with heavy losses) and it's shields where diverted, then brought down by Shepard. Reapers would tear apart almost any Halo vessel, and you can't use the 'We have Cortana!" argument either, Reapers are the ultimate state of being for A.I's, at least in the eyes of the Geth, which is a race composed entirely of A.I's. They are giant incarnations of what Cortona would be if she had a physical form that wasn't a hologram, only Reapers are [i] better [/i]. /Rant Allright, my inner nerd has vented. Back to reading.

ya so lets get it started. Alright UNSC ground forces would win the engagments depending on what units were deployed and how many. while the ME troops would be fairly uniform in their performance. pretty much the UNSC marines would have a fairly hard time with the ME troops seeing as they can chuck them around while the ODSTs would think it was a joke fighting guys who hide behind kinetic barriers rather then fight like the men the UNSC is composed of. Then we go into the spartans who wouldnt even break a sweat ripping the ME ranks apart and laying them out "break it, section it off, lay them out" and the ME troops would be more or less defensless to the spartan onslaught. thats pretty much a spartans day anyway so it wouldn't be considered anything but target practise for them. I do want to here replys from the ME dude

I don't understand the obsession with just talking about the ships of the two fleets. Both are made up of ground forces as well. Why not discuss the event of a ground based operation that pits the Citadel Fleets troops against the Marines from the UNSC? We're obviously not going to come to a concensus about a ship-to-ship fight so why not move on?

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] BRAWLER117 I respect the fact that you are a hardcore mass effect and halo fan, but you talk as if this is actually real. You do know these are just video games right? Games forged by the imaginations of people. So when you say "Mass Effect soldiers use kinetic barriers, rather than energy shielding. Covenant plasma and energy weapons wouldn't be hindered by these at all." To me sounds extremely ridiculous. Don't get me wrong, I am also an uber nerd, but really? Live in the real world man and get a life. [/quote] eh, we're just having fun, but I'm getting bored of this discussion too; it was established 4 pages ago Halo would destroy ME, but Fsabran over there keeps trying to desperately keep it alive. Or is that who're you're talking about? Still, someone needs to let this thread die...

Just thought of something; The Reapers versus the Flood.

I respect the fact that you are a hardcore mass effect and halo fan, but you talk as if this is actually real. You do know these are just video games right? Games forged by the imaginations of people. So when you say "Mass Effect soldiers use kinetic barriers, rather than energy shielding. Covenant plasma and energy weapons wouldn't be hindered by these at all." To me sounds extremely ridiculous. Don't get me wrong, I am also an uber nerd, but really? Live in the real world man and get a life.

stop reposting the same thing

the war would be like these 1th day: a UNSC refifted colony ship arrives at a council sistem the 4 frigates atack, the UNSC makes quick work of them and call for reinforcments. after losing contact the council send 3 cruiser to investigate. only one cruiser come back badly damaged they say that a human aliance with superb firepower easily destroyed their ships and their name was UNSC the council repleis in the news: yes the UNSC a human alliance with superb firepower that atacked our colony we dismissed that claim 2th day: the ONI steal a ship and send a message confirming their existance and calling for the citadel surrender the council thinks in seding a fleet but don't send because it could start a war at terminus sistem. 3th day: after several colonies disband the council send a fleet of 1 dreadnought 4 cruisers and 8 frigates against 1 marathon 5 frigates and 4 destroyers the fleet is destroyed with medium losses to the UNSC Cerberus join the UNSC. 4th day: the council send shepard's team to the sistem a longsword destroy the engines, noble and read teams board the normandy killing most of its crew and capturing shepard's team. One AI's steal the ship data and discover about the mass relays. 5th day: the UNSC begins destroying the mass relays and capturing sistems the council begins sending fleets to protect their sistems and have it's fisrt win 6th day: the UNSC make contact with the geth and arrange an aliance, the batarians and merc bands start atacking UNSC controled space. 7th day: the UNSC send an fleet of over a 50 ships that make easy work of the citadel defense fleet but they lock the citadel to all the UNSC 8th day the ONI infiltrate 3 spartam teams ho capture the council and force their surrender Over the next weekthe UNSC eliminate the resistance

the EDI one of the most advanced ME AI's is a dumb AI need more

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] SCARFACE71795 THOSE -blam!- CALIBRATIONS [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Reptilian Rob Mass Effect tech is ridiculous, plain and simple. It's grounded in reality, whereas Halo's is not. Just the CAIN itself could vaporize dozens of Hunters with a single slug, and that's not even going into detail about the Reaper fleet's armaments. And the Destiny Ascension, that thing could rip apart any Covenant/UNSC ship with little effort. Also Garrus, Garrus could take on the whole Covenant armada by himself and still have time by the end of the day to finish those calibrations.[/quote][/quote] No, THOSE -blam!- DELUSIONAL ME FANBOYS Garrus and his calibrations show again how incompetent they are, the entire time he is calibrating, why can't the AI do it?

THOSE -blam!- CALIBRATIONS [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Reptilian Rob Mass Effect tech is ridiculous, plain and simple. It's grounded in reality, whereas Halo's is not. Just the CAIN itself could vaporize dozens of Hunters with a single slug, and that's not even going into detail about the Reaper fleet's armaments. And the Destiny Ascension, that thing could rip apart any Covenant/UNSC ship with little effort. Also Garrus, Garrus could take on the whole Covenant armada by himself and still have time by the end of the day to finish those calibrations.[/quote]

oh by the way ME DOES NOT have power armour if anything there armour is plastic with a thin tin core while even the UNSC marines have thick peices of military grade steel with bullet proof layers underneath AND they arn't like those weak ME marines who get scared if a rock rolls down a hill at them (this isn't even counting the spartans who are more armoured then a tank and have no fear, they replaced that with muscle to break your neck and use it as a necklace). plus everyone in ME looks like they had too much plastic surgery to look like anime characters

you raff you ruse (ME fanboy stop trying you know ME would lose)

your overlooking the fact that both sides have already adapted there sheilds/tech to not be effected by megnetosphere and the weapons on the ME ships do change there aiming to hit the target against the captains orders while the UNSC has to manually make corrections or wait for the AI meaning that the only difference of fighting above a celestial body would be slower firing rate for the UNSC and ME ships

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] GeorgeBaggy [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Vercetti24 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] GeorgeBaggy [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Reptilian Rob Mass Effect tech is ridiculous, plain and simple. [b]It's grounded in reality, whereas Halo's is not.[/b] [/quote] LOLWUT[/quote] ME fanboy logic: Technology that wouldn't exist without a magical element = grounded in reality Technology that is theoretically possible, so it has no flying cars = unrealstic BS[/quote] couldn't sum it up any better. Mass Effect is incredible sci-fi, but there is no such thing as Mass Effect in real life[/quote] Atleast if they explained the effects of Eezo, but noooo, that's too much, now its just magic. But still in most vs battles ME fanboys are ususally the ones that compare everything to RL, totally ignoring the fact that their entire universe is based on magic. The true reason why there's magic in ME is because Bioware was previously mainly making classic WRPGs, not only they cannot let go of magic, they have to do it to appeal to their fanbase.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ROBERTO jh [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Vercetti24 It's funny how good the [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gdDodqmOQfg]Halo Effect Trailer[/url] works, it still does make sense... Change Shapard to Chief, Reapers to Flood, Collectors to the Covenant (Loyalists) and Omega 4 Relay to the Portal of Voi and voila, I present you with a Halo 3 trailer! xD[/quote] now THAT was a trailer![/quote] There was another one that actually looked better, but Johnson sintead of being the deadliest he was Jacob and that's just an insult to Johnson. Why you might ask? Mainly because of [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3wO4IOJc9U]this[/url]

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Vercetti24 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] GeorgeBaggy [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Reptilian Rob Mass Effect tech is ridiculous, plain and simple. [b]It's grounded in reality, whereas Halo's is not.[/b] [/quote] LOLWUT[/quote] ME fanboy logic: Technology that wouldn't exist without a magical element = grounded in reality Technology that is theoretically possible, so it has no flying cars = unrealstic BS[/quote] couldn't sum it up any better. Mass Effect is incredible sci-fi, but there is no such thing as Mass Effect in real life

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Vercetti24 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ROBERTO jh [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Archon170 You better hope the Alliance fleet win against the UNSC, otherwise they won't stand a chance against the Reapers.[/quote] so 1,200,000,000,000,000 kiloton bombs, 59 gigaton super MACs, energy beams such as pulse lasers, 68 per-shot standardized Frigate MACs (already superior to almost all of the highest powered weapons in ME) Slip-Space cannons and Spartans can't destroy Reapers? But inferior technology can? Interesting... And since the Reapers are suddenly allowed in, so are the Covenant, who have weapons that bypass kinetic barriers used by the Reapers and would therefore be able to one shot any Reaper with a plasma torpedo (and have ships 26 km longer then Sovereign; more ship surface=more weapons and bigger reactor)[/quote] Alliance alone cannot possible win from UNSC, that is a fact. The Alliance has only 8 Dreadnoughts (which I would like the remind you are the only ships that actually have any chance against UNSC), their fleet is only 200 ships big (which means Earth has 100 SMACs more then the Alliance has ships) vs UNSC's 2000 warships [b]alone[/b], hell Alliance is privetly funded, they simply don't have the funds for a war with an Empire like the UNSC. Fancy looking inferior technology, you can't forget about the most important part! It's all because of the flying cars! Actually Precursors are Halo's equilvent of the Reapers (as the mysterious ancient super race, not the genocidal squid-ships) which is pretty much like an instant win button for us... It's funny how good the [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gdDodqmOQfg]Halo Effect Trailer[/url] works, it still does make sense... Change Shapard to Chief, Reapers to Flood, Collectors to the Covenant (Loyalists) and Omega 4 Relay to the Portal of Voi and voila, I present you with a Halo 3 trailer! xD[/quote] now THAT was a trailer!

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] GeorgeBaggy [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Reptilian Rob Mass Effect tech is ridiculous, plain and simple. [b]It's grounded in reality, whereas Halo's is not.[/b] [/quote] LOLWUT[/quote] ME fanboy logic: Technology that wouldn't exist without a magical element = grounded in reality Technology that is theoretically possible, so it has no flying cars = unrealstic BS [Edited on 12.08.2010 3:10 PM PST]

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Reptilian Rob Mass Effect tech is ridiculous, plain and simple. [b]It's grounded in reality, whereas Halo's is not.[/b] [/quote] LOLWUT