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Edited by AJ: 7/16/2020 5:34:25 PM
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Bungie lets cheaters play their game but patches fun PvE bugs that don't harm anything

Luke Smith, care to comment??? I REALLY want some Bungie devs to help me understand how cheaters are allowed to play this game EVEN after bans, but fun PvE bugs (Wishender, for example) get the immediate patch. I try to stay out of trials (hackers ruin this game mode for me), but for the MMXX you gotta get 7 wins. Took one passage to get the wins but 5 wins in (zero losses) we get some hackers... we get 5-0ed.. just super disappointing that in year five, almost year six, hackers are still able to play this game. Like I am REALLY trying to understand the logic behind this without losing my mind. I know it has been beaten to death on the forums, twitter, etc., but Bungie.. come on, its ridiculous at this point. Letting cheaters play actively pushes your player base from the game. You are telling cheaters its okay to cheat... I truly hope some type of anti-cheat is implemented soon. EDIT: I feel like an anti-cheat similar time what what Valorant has would do wonders. Essentially saying, “you can’t play our game unless this anti-cheat software is running in the background and if it catches anything that is a cheat you are immediately banned.” Or put some kind of “paywall” for comp, trails, IB. In that you would need to pay for the full game to participate in those game modes. The downside to this would be that hackers would just go into pubs?? But I could be wrong. Would love to hear comments on these two ideas.

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  • Edited by EARWAK3R: 7/15/2020 4:02:02 PM
    I love how some of you think anti cheat is this switch you can just flip and stop all cheaters. The reality is, its a constant game of cat and mouse. And there will straight up never be a complete solution. Ever. You fix one cheat, somebody codes another one. And around it goes. Add in the fact that because of f2p, people have access to unlimited burner accounts, and there you have it.

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    • So no one has ever been banned for cheating?

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      • there is not anti cheat in this game, everything relies on reporting.

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        • They'll say it's because these changes and updates have been easier to make than patching glitches or security holes - which is true to an extent. That said it's still poor to continually smack customer's hands when there are so many other issues. From a pure PR perspective i thought you'd want to to leave a few of these player benefiting breakages, as optically that looks better than letting cheaters cheat and punishing players for taking advantage of the unintended consequences of your poor programming / optimization. I'm no dev. Nor do i work in marketing. I sell tools for a living but even i can see that you're burning through a lot of customer good will by ignoring them or slowing their progression.

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        • anything that allows players to get things done faster they will patch immediately cuz then players dont have to grind for hours on end, cheaters actually help bungie out since it shows them having more of a playerbase then they actually do + ppl have to spend more time grinding pvp to get things done since they get screwed out of things by cheaters, cheater are here to stay perm, either get used to it or quit d2

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          • Get over it ffs Stop talking rubbish, did they ever patch the Riven cheese? That's benifits players..

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            • Bro everyone here report draco because he plays with cheaters

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            • *looks at help section* Hmmm About 15 different posts of people complaining they got banned Yep, bungie never bans cheaters.

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              • They don’t “let cheaters play” they are trying to deal with them. Cheaters do get banned and they do have an anti cheat. It’s a bad one and you can say their anti cheat sucks because it does but don’t say they aren’t trying and “let’s them cheat. Bungie often leaves glitches in for longer than most and never punish you for abusing them. Be thankful they don’t ban us like other games

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              • Imagine getting pissed off for having a bug patched...

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                • Two very different things you have mentioned. Bugs easier to fix.....anti cheat harder!

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