The reason I think this is due to the events at the start of the season of arrivals. Rasputin attempted to attack a pyramid and his attack had no effect and he was disabled shortly afterward.
The traveller is a similar entity to a pyramid, technologically both look the same. I think that if Rasputin’s weapons couldn’t effect a pyramid then I don’t see how they would effect the traveller either.
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1 ReplyThe ORIGINAL plan was The Traveler and The Speaker were going to turn out to be evil. Rasputin brought down the Traveler in that plan because it tried to leave us behind after calling the Darkness here. This was back when everything was in one game. Taken King was supposed to be the final act, going on the Dreadnought to rescue Rasputin or something. Its why all of the bigshots who made Bungie what it is left. Corporate got involved and decided to completely rework the entire game, ripping out content to be resold later as DLC. Any potential this game had was lost completely when they left. Everyone has just been in denial since then, even though time and time again Bungo proves to be anti consumer.
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15 RepliesEdited by Grim: 7/15/2020 11:05:47 AMI once read lore that said Rasputin could have but didn't and from what I know nothing has actually ever shot the traveler before other than the cabal with that tether thing during the red war. But Rasputin never fired at the traveler because he didn't have too. The lore states that the traveler could have left and Rasputin was thinking about shooting it down if it tried to leave. But the traveler stayed on earth and then put the first cracks in its own body when it decide to create the ghost that eventually created the guardians that defend it today. So your right Rasputin never shot the traveler. I really shouldn't have posted anything else in these forums this community is full of nut jobs.
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6 RepliesThe Drifter remembers about there being an inferno, and The Traveler wouldn't allow anyone to die. Endless suffering.
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6 RepliesThe pyramid ships can’t be impervious. Them making rasputin unable to do any damage is just dumb. I mean the cabal actually trapped the traveler. So clearly the traveler and pyramid ships aren’t above golden age technology. The idea rasputin just gets turned off? Yea that is a really stupid idea. That means all of technology could just be turned off including your ghost. Recall rasputin is on par with the ghost AI.
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Wait a minute, I haven’t played in months, what happened? Did the traveler get attacked or something!?
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2 RepliesWell it is true that the traveler and the pyramids are in close relation saw a post once that said something like the traveler and the darkness may have been one in the same at one point but the traveler diverged and created the light to rebel against the darkness and I've also heard the traveler may be an envoy of the Gardener like the darkness maybe the envoy of the winnowner theres no real lore that ive ever seen that really states where the traveler or darkness really originated from only that they just showed up in our star system at one point and changed everthing so its hard to tell if these two are cosmic entities made of the same stuff or not its really just in the air till bungie makes it official like next season might tell the story of what the darkness and traveler truly are and where they originated from or not who knows
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7 Replies[quote] The traveller is a similar entity to a pyramid, technologically both look the same.[/quote] Not sure where you are getting this. They look pretty different to me.
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3 RepliesRasputin never shot the traveller, the traveller was injured in the first attack from the darkness... it changed its habit of fleeing the darkness and defended us.
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Not really. Motivations of the two sides play a role. Plus the Traveler was still in a coma when it was caged. It woke up to defeat Ghaul. The Pyramids are awake and took action.
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[quote]The traveller is a similar entity to a pyramid, technologically both look the same.[/quote] Did Xûr once say "Your Traveler. It has...a dark mirror"?🧐
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10 Replies<It doesn't have the exact same effect, but Rasputin did rain Valkyries down on a single shard the size of a person and it did nothing but dust Blight off of it. Rasputin is indeed ineffective overall.>
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3 RepliesRasputin shot the sherif. [spoiler]But he did not shoot the Traveller.[/spoiler]
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🎶Rasputin shot the Darkness. But he didn't shoot the Traveller...🎶
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I like to imagine that he played her a love song to help convince her not to runaway when the Pyramids came the first time. I wrote a fan fic of that years ago.
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Pretty sad from a lore perspective. Rasputin went into hibernation to survive the collapse when it was clear he couldn't win. He was maintaining those protocols until season of the worthy, when he finally awakens and we spend the entire season building him up to full strength. He is then defeated in the opening seconds of the current season. Guess leveling Rasputin was akin to our artifacts, disposed at the end of the season.
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1 ReplyLook the same? One a white circle and the other a black pyramid. Ok then.
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3 RepliesComing from a defense technology standpoint, the pyramids are actually harder to "kill" overall due to their sloped / angled sides. The same reason army tanks and armored vehicles have sloped hulls is to help the chassis deflect oncoming projectiles. In this theory, the Valkyries could have bounced off the sides of the Pyramid. The traveller however, being round and all that, presented a target that was easier to penetrate. By the same logic, if we wanted to destroy the pyramids, we could go under it and shoot upwards, seeing as to how the bottom of the Pyramid is presumed to be flat, allowing for optimal penetration of projectiles.
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Han shot first...
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3 RepliesDuh. Of course somehow we still have idiots thinking he did.
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2 RepliesThere’s that one guy who still says “Rasputin focused all of the exodus cannons on one spot, it must be the traveler”
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1 ReplyRasputin had far more weapons at his disposal during the golden age, that and all of humanities combined research into the traveler to actually know how to hit the traveler. Not saying its definite that Rasputin shot the Traveler, but it is still a viable possibility. Lately I've been favoring a theory that the darkness flat out won against the traveler, and then imprisoned it using beings capable of siphoning off its light forcing it to remain dormant. Ghaul severed that connection long enough for the traveler to wake up, and the darkness sensed its awakening and are returning to deal with that.
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Edited by max: 7/9/2020 11:26:52 AMNo one confirmed "Rasputin shout the traveler" It was often indicated in d1 lore that it did fire when traveler tried to flee and leave mankind behind, they changed the narrative in d2 saying Rasputin somehow "put the traveler to sleep" nothing definitely did or didn't do anything in this game, they can make the traveler the new villain in year 4 if they feel like it.
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Yeah and Savathun is eris (or related to/ controlled by). Member eververse said it first.
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Did he shoot the pyramid? I thought he just simulated it and saw that he was going to loose so he shut down as a way of protecting himself like he did during the collapse
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This was just a protocol Incase the traveler fled. Rasputin also can’t shoot down the pyramids. This is an ancient enemy, from outer space. Rasputin is using primitive technology. Missiles and warsat’s are shite compared to magic what ever the hell those pyramids are. We, in retrospect, are doomed.