If sunsetting meant temporary “retirements” on guns, and didn’t render previous versions irrelevant, I’d be fine with it. But this, “Gnawing Hunger and Outrageous Fortune with the Arrivals Sticker count, but older ones, with the exact same rolls don’t” is absurd. I think saying “these guns work this season, these this season, and all incarnations count” is better. At least it doesn’t render all your older, sweated out gear completely obsolete and useless. Phase shift meta, while allowing hard fought gear to still always matter.

You realize when Luke realized he could squeeze more money from Stranger he said "whoever said we were done with her was wrong" and I just sat there going "that was you".

Good one. Sunsetting is a total scam. Bungie has purposely avoided using the word in any communication with the community in what the last 4-5 TWaBs? Sunsetting is simply “the lie that is”

There are a couple of things that have been very consistent about Destiny 2 since it first launched. 1. Great music 2. Bungie hates players having choices 3. This game does not respect your time

They want you to build a "monster killing machine" but then take away the tools every interval and prevent you from doing that. It's the most goddamn -blam!- shit I've ever heard Bungie say and do. How do I progress my character in a permanent and meaningful way? Hint... there isn't a way. Gear at the moment was sort of the only proper form of player progression we have had with our gear effectively being how we fight the enemy. While any other MMO has weapons pretty much be stat sticks to improve your abilities you get from your skill tree or other areas and Destiny doesn't have a skill tree and the gear is not a stat stick when you literally have to use that item to kill an enemy. This will be 'progression' in the future of D2. * Grind for 'new' weapons or reprised weapons. * Grind for perfect stat roll armour for the year. * Grind for materials to upgrade weapons and armour from activities you have done a million times. * Grind for transmog for old armour you already earned probably doing activities you have done a million times. * Grind for mods from the artifact with xp then grind for seasonal mods from the seasons. * Grind xp for season pass track. * Repeat. Artifact mods and power bonuses reset every season but other than that you would be doing that every single year give or take for some stuff. None of that is permanent and there isn't a single piece of permanent progression I can see in Destiny 2 once sunsetting goes in. No Factions to rank up. No Vendors to rank up for unique rewards. There isn't even any permanent side progression the season stuff gets removed like Bunkers or w/e even though they kinda sucked, there is no permanent progression that makes you feel like you actually got anything that you can keep to the end. Exotics are the only thing that aren't sunsetted and I don't think that's far down Bungie's list of impending -blam!- ups. Bungie keeps changing their vision every goddamn 2 milliseconds that is just slowly making the game crumble into garbage.

They respect your time by forcing constant gear resets ever since they said that ...

They own the ip and create the content for the game . They have every right to do this

Respect player's time? its a video game. you play it to waste time. this argument is so old and pointless. no one is forcing you to play, let alone re-acquire gear. none of your gear is going to magically disappear. you can still equip it. if you're going to continue to cry about sunsetting, at least come up with a new reason why is so bad.

deal with it

I WANT TO USE THE SAME GUN FOR 5 YEARS

They obviously reissued their statement from the past :’D.

Technically, one could say that this promise regarded D1.

If friends will ask me: "Describe the game called Destiny?" Me: "It feels like Tom Cruise is behind the steering wheel when they made this game. The enemies feels like you're fighting a Mimic horde and we've killed an Alpha Mimic 6 years ago. Now we are resetting the week over and over trying to do the same stuff over and over while expecting a different result. Game could have been called - "Destiny at the Edge of Tomorrow!" Friends: "So why do they call it Destiny? . . ." Me: "I don't know . . . . . . because it doesn't have one?"

So far the weapons they reissued are exactly like the ones we already have, same perk pool, same stats, just a different tag icon. There’s no difference yet I gotta regrind for potentially months just to get what I already have, all because of some expiration date on my gear? This is the exact opposite of respecting the players time.

Stop playing the game and spending money on it then. Thats how things get done. D2 yr1......