I don’t wanna be forced to play gambit either, I want to choose my activities that I want to do and level up and get enough power quickly to be able to enjoy it instead of constant grind grind grind in boring and forced activities.....

when AFK farming is more fun than playing the game, Bungie has a serious problem

Amazing how quickly they fix stuff that affects us positively and adds a lil fun to the grind. Unfortunately when it negatively affects us they take their sweet arse time. 🤷🏽‍♂️

[quote]This is a message from the player base to Bungie. They want to play the new content when it comes out. They want to play the dungeon and heroic Contact. That requires a higher light level. Can you really blame them for not wanting do the same old boring dull grind that we've done for YEARS? I sure don't. It's a mistake to gate new content, like the dungeon, behind power levels. Power progression is not interesting and it's NOT rewarding. Long time players get no satisfaction at all from leveling up. It's a chore, not a feature. When a new season opens up, the last thing I want to do is play Gambit, Flashpoints, and any of the usual suspects that I had done forever to level up.[/quote] WHY Bungie IGNORED or selectively apply their Violation Code of Conduct? Bungie didn't restore all Farming the Forge AFK accounts back to June 1, 2020 or were restricted or banned from some or all Destiny content or activities. Easy checking on Playing Activities and doing over 10 Forge without any killing, etc... -- Using an external program or device to automate gameplay or circumvent idle detection. Source:https://www.bungie.net/7_Destiny-Account-Restrictions-and-Banning-Policies/en/Help/Article/11929#banned Restricted Access to Gear, Items, and Content When losing access to specific activities, players may also lose access to gear and items associated with that activity. This can include, but is not limited to, the following: Weapons, Armor, or Ghosts Consumables or Mods Bounties, Missions, and Quests Adventures, Milestones, or Weekly Engrams  Shaders, Ships, Emblems, or Sparrows Guided Games DLC or Expansion Content Season Passes

Well, that's the new flavor of Destiny, the thing you get once a game goes full blown [i]live-service[/i]. They need you to play constantly, regardless of whether they have the content to back it up or not, it's all about [i]player engagement[/i]. The funny thing is, and they probably hope everyone forgets it, there actually was a season when there was barely an increase in power. It only went up by 10 (+10 pinnacle) in Season of Dawn. But there probably wasn't enough [i]engagement[/i] for Bungie, just look at the Raid completions: https://warmind.io/analytics/raid You can see how the line for Garden (the most played Raid) went down after initial release, because, ya know, it's older content, perfectly normal. But would you look how it went up again when they forced everyone to grind pinnacle gear for Trials and GM Nightfalls, that's the bump towards the end. It's obvious why they do what they do with the grind in this game. They reset you every season and put half the endgame behind a high power-barrier so they have high player-numbers to show throughout the entire year. This isn't about what's good for you or the game itself, which is why, if they actually respond to this in some manner, it will only be a half-measure. Destiny wants to be played all the time, it's your second job now. Start running again, hamster!

I don't like Bungie at all and make fun of them and their decision making constantly but one thing I dislike as much as Bungie is entitled, whiny, exploiting, hypocritical low quality gamers that make a big deal out of the dumbest shit. Seriously, the whole afk exploit just shows how inept and dumb Bungie is and it never should have been in the game to begin with. Just like every other cheap farm that was patched like the menagire exploit and the raid ppl were glitching into a few days early to get the first chest and bump up their power lvl for worlds first. These types of thing should never be in a triple A game but they are cuz Bungie is pathetic. But what's even worse than these things making it into the game is the losers who exploit them and abuse them and then when bungie fixes them they piss and moan like little biotches. Stfu. Lol.

@Bungie I could not agree more with @Blade329. Here is a more in depth example of the need for a course correction in Destiny because I predict a significant number of us will not be back next season if this does not change for the better, and that could not be a more difficult decision for me. Whether or not you feel it or even care, is up to you Bungie. Around 2 years ago, some acquaintances at work knew I was not a gamer at the time, but hounded me for months that I would love this game called Destiny 2. One of them even gave me a copy as a gift for Christmas (thank you again; you know who you are). In short, it changed me to my core from an antisocial, isolated, non-gamer into someone vastly different, better and more well rounded; I am not even close to exaggerating. D2 was new, expansive, gorgeous, well written, with game mechanics I now use to measure other games against (and increasingly to itself from days gone by). I joined a clan, which expanded to Discord, and made a ton of new friends online (this is even explicitly stated on your code of conduct) which also spilled over into real life. Weekly, if not nightly raids, strikes and Gambit matches, granted they carried me through Crucible because I'm garbage in PVP but that was ok because we really seem to care for each other's experience in D2. It was nothing short of amazing. This went on solidly almost 2 years (much longer for others) where I devoted my time, energy and more importantly my hard earned money for new seasons, silver, and I even paid in-game to get light level boosted a few times when my IRL job was so busy, I just didn't have time to grind (even making that a consistent feature for new seasons would be a huge help for many of us). And most importantly, it didn't feel like a sacrifice, it was an opportunity to quickly play the exciting new season content with my good friends. I am personally aware of many who spend hours, days, weeks grinding their LL up in order to make the minimums for what they are working toward, and for whatever reason but usually conflicts IRL, more than a few (myself included) don't make it before the quest, raid, or object expires. All that time, energy and money literally wasted. The argument from some is "the grind is not that difficult", which I will grant you is true, but it is time consuming and no longer fun. I already have a job, it even pays me; so why keep paying to not have fun grinding my free time away? The grind for Light Level season after season has progressively squeezed the fun and enjoyment out of all the amazing hard work Bungie as done up to this point. In closing, I thank Bungie sincerely for all the experiences and friends you have given me. Granted this is just one person's opinion, but I think I'm done. See you starside. #grindallergic

Power grind is just a barrier to slow people down because they can’t make content fast enough. I have no interest in playing the same stuff I’ve been playing for years to get high enough to do new stuff. If it wasn’t for the forges, I honestly wouldn’t even be playing at all now. It’s just not worth my time to do weeks of monotonous grind to try a small amount of new stuff. And bloody hell, can we stop this boring ‘upgrade’ system every season? I did the sundial stuff and then completely skipped last season because I wasn’t doing that boring warmind upgrade. Have no interest in doing it this season either. Yawnfest. **Edit ** Well, they stopped the forges. I’ll help my friend who still plays run Pit of Hersey once a week and that’s it. I’m done.

True dat. I don't want to spend 2 weeks leveling up enough to try the dungeon. It wouldn't be so terrible, except they're getting rid of this dungeon after this season. Why does that make sense? It took me three or 4 months to even bother with the dreaming city dungeon. Why buy seasonal content if Bungie makes it where I can't try the dungeon if I'm in the middle of a heavy work schedule? If it stayed up for a year then cool... I would run it a few times. And before any jerk-offs try to talk about how they work and do dungeons all night... I'm not a 20 y/o fry cook. I am an Ironworker and I'm 48 years old.

So much dumb cry babies its pathetic

I’m surprised you’re only just now complaining about this. Destiny has been a boring and tedious checklist of chores for a while, if not since release. I guess it just takes longer for some people to come to that realization.

Yep weapons still don’t fire consistently and sprint still off but thank goodness we got the afk farmers under control!

Wtf now Umbral Engrams are useless... It was nice sometimes getting powerful gear but now they just don’t add any power... Grinding is just stupid in this game.