I personally love Gambit. I was terrible at it at first and hated invasions, being all PVE and no PVP, but I've learned to appreciate the invasion dynamic as a way to stage quick reversals and turnarounds that, IMHO, are part of what make the game so exciting. While the three-round format can be long-ish, it gives teams the chance to change tactics and recover from a sloppy run in the first round. I've been on tons of teams that got pasted the first round, then pulled their act together an made an awesome comeback to take the game. It makes me sad that the rewards aren't better and more frequent. I really loved grinding for the curated rolls of Trust and Bad Omens, and for Python and Hush, so it's dissapointing to see less of them this season. If you're having a hard time with Gambit, try it with the following tweaks. Note that I'm NOT an invader. I play for motes and Primeval DPS, and generally only fight invaders if I have to, and only actively hunt them when my team is having a hard time dealing with them. Also, I'm a hunter main, so my build suggestions will all be for hunters: 1. Try to go in with a minimum resilience score of 60-65, more if you can do it without sacrificing your other stats entirely. 2. Bring at least 1 special in your energy slot that reloads itself, like Prometheus Lens, or, better yet, any fast-firing shotgun with an auto-loading holster. Bring a special ammo finder or an ammo finder for the special you've specifically brought along. This allows for an initial rush into a section full of adds that allows you to immediately decrease the number of guns targeting you from all sides. This works especially well right out of the gate in the first round, when the enemies aren't as tough. You wade in, shotgun 5 or 6 of the first enemies you see, then take out what's left nearby at your leisure. It gives you an easy mote advantage at the top of the game, and gives your team some wiggle room, should the opposing team prove to be persistent and efficient. I personally have a Retold Tale, maxed out for range, with auto-loading and full auto in my energy slot, and it does this job very, very nicely. Paired with my Arc cloak loaded with Powerful Friends and Pump action, I keep my movement high and I'm able to convert all those shotty kills into super energy. Because shottys do immense DPS at point-blank range, a quick-firing shotgun can also be used in a panic maneuver on your primeval when a round looks like it's going to be close. Run right up to the primeval and rip a clip right into its face. Yes, you'll get stomped, but you'll do way more damage then you would have bopping in and out of cover and plinking away with your primary. I've pushed my team over the victory line numerous times using this tactic. Have a shotty with boss spec mounted? Vorpal weapon? Why not both? It can only help, in this department. I addition, if you have any old-school armor lying around in your vault, remember that they often dropped with random rolls that included ammo finders, and they seem to stack. I have a Memory of Cayde cloak that allows me to choose between a heavy and special ammo finder, and it helps keep me in shotty ammo for the whole game when I pair it with the special or shotgun ammo finder in my next-gen helmet. 3.Don't bring a sniper rifle unless invading is your jam. There's too much cover to make it useful against the adds on all the boards, too much fire to avoid a flinch-miss at the wrong moment, it won't always be the best way to take on a really aggressive invader, and it'll take up one of your weapon slots uselessly for most of the time. Alternately, bring an exotic like Prometheus Lens or Riskrunner, or even Huckleberry that dishes out tons of damage, bullet-hose style, and self-reloads. Fusion rifles are okay, just avoid one with too much kick or a long charge time. Again, add-clearing is the name of the game. Bring a special finder, or your high-tech ray gun will become a fancy paperweight after the first ten shots. Jotunn can help clear adds better than other fusions, but I personally wouldn't recommend using up my exotic slot with it unless your'e a career invader. 4. If you have it, put Malfeasance in your primary. While it can be a bit of a pain to use against the adds, it is HUGELY effective against Taken and Invaders. With sustained fire, it melts blockers like nobody's business. Against invaders, it has the same effect as a gun with Vorpal Weapon in PVP on a supered-up guardian. 4 or 5 rounds, and down they go. I often do 25% to 35% primeval damage at the end of a round, just by hanging back and using Malfeasance to killl the envoys and then put every round I can on the big guy. If you don't have room in your helmet for a hand cannon targeting mod, at the very least equip an HC loader or unflinching aim. Equip all three, and Malfeasance goes from being an interesting exotic with a neat perk, to a Taken-slaying powerhouse. If you're going to employ my strategy, then HC ammo finder, reserves, or primary ammo finder can be huge helps as well. If you don't have Malfeasance, consider a weapon with fast-fire, fast reload, and one or two different perk/mod combos: The demolitionist/grave robber combo is an awesome pairing on an AR, SMG, or even a fast-firing sidearm. Melee kills reload a part of your mag, and generate fresh primary ammo. Gun kills generate grenade energy, and using said grenade reloads your mag completely. If you have an armor mod that boosts grenade energy, or turns grenade damage into super damage, this combo can have you popping supers or laying down arcbolt hell with far greater frequency. Vorpal weapon paired with an ammo generating or reloading mod can also really help with those yellow bars. Think overflow, grave robber, feeding frenzy, subsistence, etc. It may not DPS like malfeasance, but it'll give you something to shoot the primeval with at the end of an especially tough round, when you're most likely to be out of special/heavy, and waiting for supers and grenades to recharge. Avoid non-malfeasance hand cannons, with the exception of Crimson, with it's large mag, healing factor, and self-reload perk, and Sunshot, which can wipe groups of adds out with it's uber-dragonfly power. If you must bring one, go for fast firing, fast-reload models with outlaw or some other reload perk. Scouts and pulse rifles have limited usefulness in gambit, with the exception of Polaris lance and Graviton Lance, again for the same enhanced Dragonfly mechanics. to be continued...

The biggest problem I see is that not everyone on your team is there to win.

Cause people will complain about anything they aren’t the best at...never changes around here lol

Invading is too one sided. Especially with truth and xenophage its just so free.

In a single sentence? [i]Open-world PVP[/i] Gambit is a sanitized version of the open-world pvp in see in many RPGs and MMOs. Open world pvp is divisive in every community in which its introduced. Because it gives one player (generatlly the one who wants to PVP) the abilty to negatively impact (usually the person who wants to play PVE) someone else's play experience. So generally what happens is open world PVP turns into a Ganker's Paradise....and players either love it or hate it. Now the problems unique to Gambit. 1. The role of PVP and PVE are WAY out of balance. So the game basically plays like a PVP game mode with bouts of almost inconsequential PVE in between. Which ever team wins the PVP encounters wins the match. This is a HUGE turn off to PVE players. 2. One skilled PVE player cannot carry a weak team. Especially one with players who keep dying with lots of motes on them. But one skilled PVP player can control the flow of an entire match, and effectively determine who wins. Again, this is a HUGE turn off to PVE players. 3. The way Gambit's PVP is set up, it is an unbalanced contest of build strength and adaptability. Its fast, nasty, and always fought with the fastest-killing method and each player's disposal. This is a frustration to many PVP players used to arena shooters and "balanced" pvp. 4. Invasion is too frequent, and has too much of an impact. Because---like so many Bungie PVP modes----there are tons of snowball mechanics, and very few catch up mechanics. So once the momentum of the game turns against you----or if the other team decides to play from behind----you can start to feel that the game is just one long, continuous invasion. That is tilting. 5. The game mode is extremely punishing. Especially if you have new, inexperienced, or unfocused players on your team. I ***H-A-T-E*** playing Gambit on any day where Drifter has a bounty up for deposting 15 motes or large blockers. Because that guarantees you will have some blueberry on your team who just runs around trying to deposit 15 motes at a time for that damn bounty....without any regard for the flow of the game. So he's the guy who always has a crap ton of motes on him whenever you get invaded. Dies with them...and puts the team in a hole they can't get out of without having to constantly invade the other team. Or---more typically---you just get rolled. Again, makes for a not-very-fun experience. 6. No SBMM.

I think there are many people who just don’t understand it. Out of all the titles I’ve unlocked (Wayfarer/ Unbroken/ Dredgen/ Reckoner/ Undying/ Savior/ Flawless/ Conqueror/ Almighty), Reckoner was my favorite to unlock. I used to hate Gambit, but the pursuit of Reckoner really opened my eyes and gave me a huge appreciation for Gambit and Reckoning. I fell in love with invading, and reaping, and Reckoning, and realized how awesome and useful many of the perks on those armors actually are. Combine that with certain weapons for certain play styles for certain roles and yeah, Gambit and Gambit Prime became some of my favorite D2 content. I haven’t done them much this season though due to the pursuit of other titles and gear and but yeah, it’s there when I want to play it and despite frustrating games every now and then I love it.

They suck at (☞ ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)☞ pve and (ง'̀-'́)ง pvp