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10/14/2010 4:44:35 PM
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Noble Map Pack - 11/30/2010
The Halo: Reach Warfront expands!
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Halo Reach is not even out for two months and you guys already have a map pack ready to send? Why couldn't you send it with the game? Its a huge waste of money that we already spent buying your game. I have no doubt that millions of people will still buy it because they don't understand this point. Having this product release this early after the game comes out should be free.
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Well I'm all for the new maps. (although I do admit they didn't release many with the starter). And 10 bucks isn't a big deal, if you don't like it don't buy it.
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OMG! finally, 2 reasons why I'm happy... #1: SNOW MAP! Yes! I love maps with snow. UNGH! #2: A new forge map. The other one is good and all, but everything is so bumpy and it's always good to have variety. ONE MORE THING! Bungie, you guys should make a map as big and useful as forge world, but... IT'S COVERED IN SNOW! SNOWY FORGE WORLD! EPIC!!!!!
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[quote]You do know Reflection is a remake of Ivory Tower from Halo 2 right?[/quote] Yes, it was one of my favorite maps. I don't really want them to do remakes with old layouts, but some works so well. The particular artist for Reflection just went wild with the style, and it paid off. I do want totally new maps and I want them to look unique, or at least from other parts of the Halo series. There are so many unique areas and visual feelings from across the series, many of which should be reborn in new maps! [Edited on 10.14.2010 10:07 PM PDT]
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i think i would rather they rased the cap then brting out more maps i mean the game onley came out a little while ago ps get some halo on peps! [Edited on 10.14.2010 9:43 PM PDT]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] jamborie 69 Tempest looks great[/quote] Agreed. Tempest looks exactly like what Paradiso SHOULD have been. A well thought out, well built map with more than just 5 objects and a mountain on it. I look forward to playing BTB on this map. [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Imogen Heap Overall they look great, but please come up with more unique maps like Reflection. That map is perfection in my eyes, especially the art style. Please let more of your artists have the freedom to come up with more gems like Reflection. Or at least use colors you haven't used yet; I think Halo 3 had a very nice variety in its color palette for the different maps. No more green, blue, and gray please.[/quote] You do know Reflection is a remake of Ivory Tower from Halo 2 right? Artistically it is very unique in the grand sceme of Halo maps, but the map layout is remade. I do agree that it is a wonderful map though. [Edited on 10.14.2010 9:42 PM PDT]
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All of these maps really look fantastic, and a lot of people here have misconceptions. A lot of people are saying it's coming out too soon, but the Novemeber 30th release date for the map pack is 2 and a 1/2 months after release of Reach. I am happy they are coming out before Christmas so I will have more time to play. The price is fine, all previous map packs have been priced the same. It is nearly the same as the COD packs, which were 5 for $15 I believe. $3.33 for a map is worth it for the hours of entertainment and fresh feeling I get from a new map. Of course free would be better, that's why I <3 valve in terms of DLC. I'm sure M$ influences the Halo map packs' price. If you don't want to buy them, then don't. And if that makes you sell your copy of Reach, then I guess Reach was never the game for you. Anchor 9 looks pretty great, and I think the low-gravity area will work better in this map because it's not just some big open area like in Zealot, there is actually cover. I can imagine the low gravity antics. I really like the play space and setting overall. Tempest looks great gameplay-wise, but I agree with others that the setting is too much like forge world. Maybe change the time of day or something (do the same for some of the other forgeworld maps, too!)? It seems a lot of people think this is a major forge map, but it's not really. Either way, the next major forge map should have a new setting, and should have big flat areas or even a remake of Sandbox would be nice (although I despise the visual style of Sandbox). Breakpoint looks cool, but it's hard to tell by the screenshots how well it will play. I like the snow, but I miss the bright snowy style of Avalanche. Overall they look great, but please come up with more unique maps like Reflection. That map is perfection in my eyes, especially the art style. Please let more of your artists have the freedom to come up with more gems like Reflection. Or at least use colors you haven't used yet; I think Halo 3 had a very nice variety in its color palette for the different maps. No more green, blue, and gray please.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] buttmonkies [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] CiNiK X Wow, these maps look horrible. Not only are 2 out of three massive, the "small" map has space. Space. Cause it worked so well on Zealot. This reminds me of the shield doors on Snowbound and Epitaph. It reminds me of how Bungie seems to be unable to make good maps anymore.[/quote] Say what you want, but Powerhouse and Swordbase are future classics.[/quote] Swordbase in its current form? Are you joking? It's a total campfest up in the room above the yellow lift. ~telengard
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I really dont want to get these maps since only one of them [i]might[/i] be a good 4v4 map and I cant imagine the forge map to offer anything too different from forgeworld. Not to mention 3 maps that all appear in different playlists wont break up how boring it is to play the same 3 or 4 maps over again. I would rather pay $30 for a 10-map map pack because then I wouldn't be playing the same 5 maps over and over again. I'm probably not going to get this map pack even though I got all of them for H3 because I don't think these maps will freshen the game enough for it to be worth it. The problem is, if I don't get the map packs, most of the playlists will probably be closed off to me after a couple of months. Unless something changes my mind I won't get these map packs and will sell Halo: Reach since I will be closed off from most of the playlists.
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Obviously these maps were planned in probably in production before Reach's release. The fact there were only two invasion map on disc stands testimony to this. These maps should've been on disc, IMO. But what's done has been done and no amount of whining will defer me from spending 800 points on this pack. Well played, sir. Maybe some map pack codes could be given to people outside of US for Forge World maps considering they can't compete in the contest... just saying.
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of course! 2 of the multiplayer maps are from the campaign just like the others aswell except forge world
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Tempest looks great
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Welcome to the new normal in FPS multiplayer games. Activision won't be satisfied until they suck all the life, and money, out of gaming. I bought an Xbox almost ten years ago BECAUSE of Halo:CE and this will probably be the first map pack I pass on from Bungie. From the still images, the maps look BAD. Two more giant maps and a small map that looks average at best. Space? Really? Because people desperately want to float around and be an easy target. Novel, but terrible gameplay. And BTW, where is the laser in multiplayer??? I'm an old gamer, I can afford the maps so that's not the problem. What irritates me as a consumer is seeing the gaming industry go the way of Hollywood SO COMPLETELY. Remember that movie you saw last week, yeah, you saw it before, just in a different wrapper. It's just so sad to see this come from a developer I've respected for so long. [Edited on 10.14.2010 8:33 PM PDT]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] CrazyMadWarlord for all those who are beetching: 1 the campaign is based off the multilayer maps not the other way around and the w/ the maps from forge world, think about the time it takes to make ALL of forge world as the one map itself. 2 Releasing a map so early is not milking, its what Bungie did w/ Halo 3 too. 3 Cmon guys stop complaining about ten bucks i mean TEN DOLLARS cmon i bet that how much you spend on Friday for Mnt Dew and Hot pockets so you can pull an all nighter playing- you guested it- Halo Reach. 4 Anyone talking about level cap, look at the weekly update for 10/8/10 [/quote] 1. just because they didnt it with halo 3 doest meen its not milking dumbass. 2. you know what 10$ can buy? alot of -blam!- more important than this piece of -blam!-. Example=Groceries
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for all those who are beetching: 1 the campaign is based off the multilayer maps not the other way around and the w/ the maps from forge world, think about the time it takes to make ALL of forge world as the one map itself. 2 Releasing a map so early is not milking, its what Bungie did w/ Halo 3 too. 3 Cmon guys stop complaining about ten bucks i mean TEN DOLLARS cmon i bet that how much you spend on Friday for Mnt Dew and Hot pockets so you can pull an all nighter playing- you guested it- Halo Reach. 4 Anyone talking about level cap, look at the weekly update for 10/8/10
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Dessinator [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Anthony2K6 Why do some of you kids whine about 10 measly dollars for such high quality content? Do you all even know what it means for devs to go gold? These couldn't possible be added on time. And for the record for some of you out there, the multiplayer maps were made before the campaign integrated them in so stop whining like you got all rehashes.[/quote] I don't have a job yet, and my family is having financial problems. So $10 is about how much I make in a month or two.[/quote] I just dont understand how people with financial problems go and buy videogames. (instead of saving it and waiting for a miracle) But well, its not my decision nor my money but I cant believe why would you buy reach if the only money you earn is $10 a month. Plus a reason that you dont have a job could be that you are playing videogames? Havent you realized that?
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Holla holla get $
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] II gaped II I just spent $150 on this game not even two months ago and will already have to buy content. [/quote] I can understand this. I kind of anticipated the superabundant amount of map packs in this game's future and bought the base model figuring I would be spending another 40 to 50 bucks on map packs... But like I said, this was coming down the pipe anyway; may as well enjoy it along with the "not being upset because I'm waiting for the first map pack to drop since the game shipped with hardly any maps."
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Not to mention, several of the maps included in the game were made in forge, which is incredibly cheap to me. Just saying, H:R is a great game, but falls very short in the map arena, imo.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] HLG iKILLEDu I love how there are so many people so happy about this.... I for one think this is complete horse crap... seriously I just payed 60 bucks for the game exactly a month ago... now you expect me to pay 10 dollars more for 3 new maps... Honestly bungie this is a complete rip off you couldn't have just shipped these maps with the game... Of course you couldn't if you had of done that you wouldn't make the extra ten bucks. People don't be fooled when they say they have been working hard to get these done. As far as we know they could have had these maps done 3 months before release and just held them off so they could make the extra ten bucks. I really am disappointed in them now. You know bungie not all of us make the money you do.[/quote] Its not bungies fault that you cant afford 10 bucks, if you cant, then dont buy it. Simple as that. And this goes to all the whiners, If you dont afford it(or dont want it for whatever reason) then dont buy it!I love that Bungie is shipping more maps early, that way we can expand our gameplay experience.
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too much focus on big team. H:R had the worst slayer maps of any halo yet, and they make BTB and Invasion maps? Dumb.
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im disappointed with this pack i was hoping for more bang for my buck and this is like a truck of dynmite destroying that
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wow $10 half hour?....Sad
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for 10 bucks 3 maps is not enough and to make it a better buy they could throw in some dlc armor with the maps to make it more a pack.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] II gaped II [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] BlazeSigma311 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] mityman50 People complaining about price, what? Three maps for ten bucks, how is that different from standard prcedure? Are people just getting more cranky and cheap? Or perhaps there is a rush of post-release ten year olds who can't have jobs?[/quote] I agree on that people should stop complaining about the price it only ten dollars lol [/quote] if any of you guys were around for halo 3 dlc, which i doubt you were, you would realize people are complaining because they are releasing dlc content too soon... i make $10 in 30 min at work and im still complaining about the dlc, because it is wrong to release it and charge ppl this early I just spent $150 on this game not even two months ago and will already have to buy content.[/quote] Didn't you just say that you were done with Reach already? Yeah, thought so. At any rate, there is a rather large period of time between when the environment and map artists are finished with the main game (this applies to all games) and the date of release. This time period can actually be several months. In that time, the content on the disk is usually finalized and nothing new can be added before the game is sent "off to the presses". A lot of game developers are now using this time to continued building new content for the game. As for all of the "it should be free" comments? No... it shouldn't. When you bought Reach, you got everything Bungie offered. Nothing more. Nothing Less. You knew what you were buying, and that deal is done. These maps required EXTRA work and the people who make these maps deserve to be payed for their EXTRA work. If people are going to be that -blam!-y about the price, they could always wait for the maps to become the deal of the week. They'll most likely drop to 400 points then. Anywho, I think the maps look pretty awesome. With the exception of Breakpoint, they bring back feeling of Halo 1. Which is always good. While reading descriptions of Anchor 9, I kept thinking of the Pillar of Autumn. That was before I saw the pics, obviously. It did make me think that a Pillar of Autumn map styled after the original design of the interior of the Autumn from Halo 1 would be an awesome idea.
