Doing the Bergusia forge in guardian games for the first time since Shadowkeep dropped and I got to see first hand how pathetic Whisper of the Worm is after the nerfs.
I somehow missed a shot in there but 12 rounds out of 13 fired hit the same leg of the spider tank boss and didnt break it.
When you combine a nerf to the gun with however you buff this tank for the forge (compared to one in the public event on Titan) it makes me feel extremely weak.
I used to be able to kill the tank with 9 rounds of Whisper, but now... this instance ended in a failure because timer ran out with a sliver of health left.
Image getting 371 Bergusia forge completions in a row and now I cant clear it. Power creep my asss
Whisper in it's current form does not belong in the heavy slot, it is less powerful than Black Spindle in D1 snd that was a special weapon.
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29 RepliesWhisper is still in the top 3 for boss damage
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Jet Set WillyIt’s all going concording to plan 😂🤣 - old
When they say Spider tank in Bergusia forge they really mean Spider [b][u]TANK[/u][/b]. The health buff that thing got is crazy. -
3 RepliesWhisper is still #1 in total damage. The reason why it took so many shots to destroy the spider leg is because you DID NOT ACTIVATE BOX BREATHING.
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1 ReplyWith whispered breathing proced, its still the highest sustained damage dealing weapon in the game. In the sanctified mind fight, i hit about 1,000,000 damage with whispered breathing with weapons of light, enhanced relay defender x4, plus celestial night hawk to cap off in a single damage phase. Where as my friends that were all using xeno plus weapons of light and enhanced relay defender x4 were somewhere around 600,000. Of course celestial pushed my damage stupid high, I probably hit somewhere around 700,000 with whisper on its own, which is still higher than anything else will get in that period of time and beyond it. Whisper is still the sustained damage king and deserves its place as a heavy. Plus I've grown to like it in the heavy slot as it allows me to run double snipers in pve along with a primary. Having whisper soley for boss damage and another sniper for general use in the encounters plus a back up when out of whisper ammo is absolutely amazing. Same goes for something like mountaintop. I currently run a dreaded venture with triple tap, rapid hit, and a stability masterwork, recluse, and whisper as my go to loadout for almost every raid boss, and its absolutely amazing. On a side note, I think the bergusia walker is bugged or it glitches sometimes. I once hit it with 4 honed edge shots from izanagis burden and some wendigo and it didn't take out a single leg. Another time I hit it with 2 honed edge shots plus some wendigo and it took out a leg. Definitely a boss issue more than a weapon issue.
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2 RepliesEdited by Rain: 5/18/2020 7:16:11 AMThat boss is tanky af with any loadout for some reason. You also do not have the catalyst or you dont realize you need to wait to activate whispered breathing. You also said 13 shots when you only hit 12 (the extra shot wouldn't have mattered vs that mega tank I'm just pointing that out) Whisper imo is still pretty top tier for burst dps. Atleast top 3 dependent on raid encounter.
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1 ReplyIt’s very much a heavy weapon. It’s just not game breaking anymore. I remember wondering why they brought back White Nail when they had to remove it from the game in D1 when it was in Black Hammer.
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7 RepliesAnother interesting thing is that I found out that my Xenophage will do 28k damage per shot after you break the tank... but my kinetic shotgun can do 45k per shot.... Seems like heavy weapons are nerfed in this forge?
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15 RepliesEdited by U17575342: 5/17/2020 9:50:41 PMWhisper and DARCI have absolutely no business being heavies. Edit: and Queenbreakers too
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OG Black Hammer FTW.
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2 RepliesI make sure I have full heavy and proc whispered breathing. By the time the tank gets back up, its 1 more leg break away from being down.
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2 RepliesEdited by JubberDunkus: 5/18/2020 7:23:14 PM
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Edited by SIERRA - 117: 5/18/2020 3:46:14 PMI had a cool idea back in the day for whisper. I loved how it pulled ammo out of thin air but that was patched. My idea was that it should convert some of your super energy into ammo and allow you to keep firing as long as you keep making those precision shots. (Now imagine combining this with the armor mod that gives you super energy with sniper rifle kills). If you read the description of the gun, my idea fits peferctly with the description. The gun is parasitical in nature and as such should have this "give and take" exotic feature to it.
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I feel bad, this was lame of them to do this. This company is filled with incompetents... On the plus side for me, I don't have to finish the grind for what is now, a piece of shit.
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I think it's more that that one boss got a huge health buff for some reason. Whisper is still incredibly high in DPS and in max damage potential.
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[quote]Doing the Bergusia forge in guardian games for the first time since Shadowkeep dropped and I got to see first hand how pathetic Whisper of the Worm is after the nerfs. I somehow missed a shot in there but 12 rounds out of 13 fired hit the same leg of the spider tank boss and didnt break it. When you combine a nerf to the gun with however you buff this tank for the forge (compared to one in the public event on Titan) it makes me feel extremely weak. I used to be able to kill the tank with 9 rounds of Whisper, but now... this instance ended in a failure because timer ran out with a sliver of health left. Image getting 371 Bergusia forge completions in a row and now I cant clear it. Power creep my asss Whisper in it's current form does not belong in the heavy slot, it is less powerful than Black Spindle in D1 snd that was a special weapon.[/quote] I've been dating that for a year... If they leave it in the heavy they need to make it a legendary
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Whisper is fine. That stupid boss has been out of control for a while now though.
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2 RepliesImagine wanting to be able to have infinite ammo
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Yeah I've just straight deleted it. I'd delete Sleeper too but I have 7K kills on mine.
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Whisper of the Worm should have infinite ammo again.
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4 RepliesThat is because that spidertank has too much health. Not because whisper is bad. 1 celestial crit does like 10% of its max health.
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5 RepliesLooks like Whisper got hit hard with that sniper nerf. Jeez.
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2 RepliesTry it with the catalyst. I noticed you didn’t have whispered breathing on it gives you damage bonus.