I think a great many of you are just really angry inside and have no other way of releasing said anger, than to hate on this game because there are internet mediums that will allow you to do so. You'll still buy it, play it, cry and moan. And Bungie will cater to your every whimper because that's who they are.

The people who design the gameplay, the artists, the ones who write the code, they're good. It's the management, the ones who make decisions are awful.

We gotta stop encouraging their midlife mmo crisis. Literallly theyve only brought over all the worst parts of a mmo (bounties,power level, seasonal content, gear retirement) without adding any of the good parts of a mmo (versatile skill trees, large fireteam, actual story, roles, etc)

Just as an FYI, the original reddit thread was in regards to sunsetting weapons (& armor). Personally, I don't like the idea. I like occasional op weapons and armor. My experience as a D1 player was non stop till near the end. In D2 I'm now on my 3rd pause. In D2 I've found Dev's decisions go from a mediocre start, to better, to bad again.

Been saying that since Smith used the term mmorpg the first time. It may have been what Bungie planned at the beginning before Activision kneecapped them, but they cant make it one now without overhauling the entire game.

Objectively speaking he’s using negative phrasing and misrepresenting the situation to an extreme degree. Only mentioning things that sound negative, nothing positive. This is the problem with the forum vacuum. The active player base is 800k strong, meaning 8000 people are 1% of the entire community and I have yet to a single post get even to 8000, let alone enough to be a substantial amount of the playerbase.

[quote]I think the core issue that [b]I[/b] have is that [b]I[/b] want it to be a huge phenomena and a massive MMO[/quote] Fixed.

This was an ill thought out idea from the beginning. Wrong time, wrong company(ies), wrong hardware, the list continues. It will be another generation before even a shred of whatever this is becomes real

Honestly I wish D2 would have just ended with season of opulence... then they took time to revamp everything and they spent a year or two on D3... I think it would have been a much better option. But Luke smith took every potentially good thing and tried to turn the game into some rendition of fortnite i swear.

I generally agree with that sentiment. That being said, I don’t play MMOs. Destiny is the only game like this that I have ever played, so I am unfamiliar with any comparison beyond just reading when others make them. All I can say is this. That aspect of the game has VERY little to do with why I’m here and why I come back to it. I play it for the universe/ story and the combat. Period. I love those things about it but my personal opinion is that they are wrapped in a pretty terrible package. A rigid, impractical, and inconsistent package. I’ve noticed that the times in which I see people say Destiny is at its best are the new year expansions. The big story drops. The things about Destiny that seem to most consistently deliver based on player response is the big story add-ons, the music, the art, etc. Also the combat. Yet all those except the combat seem to be low on the priority list for Bungie. They seem to prioritize the grind, challenge, endgame activities that so few people play regularly or at all, etc. It’s like they try to make the players fit the game instead of make the game fit the players. Which I think will never really work well. So I agree that a shake up in the dev team is what has been needed for quite some time. I don’t see anything wrong with this game being the pseudo MMO that it is. I think they should embrace that and make things more accessible to all types of players, and lean on the more casual side of things while still retaining the current challenge and endgame for those that like it. Lean on a “jump in and play when we want” mentality instead of making the SOLE post story content the type of content that has to be planned days or a week in advance through the use of LFG and that takes half a day or more to complete. The one thing they could make more involved is our ability to customize our characters. Cosmetically of course, like being able to build ships and sparrows instead of just collecting a bunch of unused cosmetics to check something off a list, but the game also DESPERATELY needs a weapons 2.0 type of update. One where we can tweak our weapons much more. I’d rather grind for a continued sense of improvement than to get items I won’t use just to check them off a list. That’s what stops me from playing. Why do I care about playing an uninspired activity that feels like everything I’ve played before just to get loot I won’t use? It’s just a terrible pursuit system.