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Edited by Dante:
5/2/2020 10:06:36 AM
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why do we still have 6v6 on maps designed for 4v4?
i cant even count how many times i got spawned right next to enemy cause there was no space to spawn on those small maps
change all 6v6 to 4v4 majority of the maps are waaay too small for that amount of players
Edit: so from what i ve gathered so far
we had 4v4 before because of sandbox was very slow so they changed it to 6v6 but then we got weapons, ability regen, ttk, super, movement changes and 6v6 became more problematic
some supers even last long enough to wipe whole team twice.
ammo economy: special weapons can be used as primary
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Edited by SNΞΔKY FθX: 6/6/2021 10:32:27 AMI was just looking through old posts... I miss 4v4 so much... cause at least if you had only 2 bad players, you can still win. It's harder to win now with the extra weight to carry
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1 Reply5v5 is where it should be.
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Because numbers are HARD for bungie to use. they haven't seen the LIGHT. wait a sec... Hard... Light.... [spoiler]HALF LIFE 3 CONFIRMED.[/spoiler]
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Because all the dumb dumbs complain literally about everything, and Bungie listens to the game breaking complaints spending all their time nerfing, sun setting gear, etc etc when what they should do is listen to constructive criticism but nope they don’t do that so 🤷♂️
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I like the 4v4 and slower gameplay but not many people liked how it wasn't similar enough to D1. So they made changes, added 6v6, broke the spawns because 6v6, and people complained lmao It used to take 3 melees to kill someone. Melee trading barely happened it was great :)
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Edited by XX_HOLT_XX: 5/3/2020 5:26:45 PMReal question is why do I have to pay all of this money for Bungie to sell me D1 piece by piece but in a degraded state?????
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Edited by flounder102bass: 5/3/2020 5:02:05 PMMaps like widows court and the rise of iron map are perfect for 6v6
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Making content is hard, bro.
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Edited by anansispider: 5/3/2020 8:07:06 AMBecause it's more fun. Edit: I would be much more successful in 4v4, though. Less variables around every single corner. Also, roaming 2 more roaming supers to top the balance of a game. [spoiler]Gosh. Maybe sign me up for that...[/spoiler] And I guess they changed a lot of things. Some would improve 4v4, but they were made to affect 6v6
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3 Replies4v4 was trash and that is why we have 6v6. Bungie realized they messed up and changed it to 6v6 with forsaken but sadly the maps did not change. But to be fair I'd rather have small maps than 4v4.
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4 RepliesEdited by an Ape with a d2 addiction: 5/2/2020 10:39:47 AMAll the folks referring to D2Y1 as a counter-argument, stop. It wasn't slow because of 4v4, it was slow because the universal movement speeds were literally slower across the board, primary TTKs were longer and specials didn't exist. 4v4 in the current sandbox is not bad, as in 8-man lobbies and how they play. 12-man lobbies often are suboptimal, with bad spawns, constant 1vX collapses and overall random shenanigans you alone have no agency in because the maps're so crowded and the game plays so fast now. 5v5 could be a fun experiment as well.
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So many of these maps are trash. Anomaly, Widows Court, Fragment etc can all suck a dick
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1 ReplyNeed more d1 maps to be brought in for free tho
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1 ReplyCan we go back to launch meta... 4v4 and balanced ttks
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For the most part I find PVP ridiculous in the way structured I mean, sniper rifles and rocket launchers on tiny maps. when they get these sniper rifles and rocket launchers firing them from 10 feet away at you for a one hit kill do not think they have a place on such tiny maps
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I just hate all the refurbished D1 maps. They don’t play well in D2.
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Every time I play Control on Burnout I die a little on the inside.
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3 RepliesI still remember so much of the forums crying for 6v6. Idk how anyone thought the special weapons changes+having 2 extra people on each team would be a good idea. Here we are now :)
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“Resources”
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Hey. You should be happy that we are still in beta. Bungie will promise a better experience with Destiny 3. After 6 years they‘re listening and we will see these changes in Destiny 3. Eververse will expand and give you more loot in her store.
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Why do we still have maps designed for 4v4..?
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Because
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..or they could just design bigger maps for 6v6. That one EDZ map from a few seasons ago where you could go in the houses and on the rooftops would be a good example. It felt more like a Halo map! I'd come back just for a multi player map pack similar to the golden days of Bungie.
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I avoid the 6v6 playlists as much as I can, and I used to love the crucible. It was my goto when content was dry, which is almost always. 6v6 + the current weapon system + skill based match-making all together makes it unplayable. Remove one and it will work for me. 6v6 is not good for a) some maps and b) the inconsistent p2p that really struggles to coordinate 12 players. The current weapon system allows for a) snipers and jotunns to just spawn camp and b) one-shotting weapons such as snipers shotguns and fusions dominates the game completely if used by competent players and c) the shitty p2p registers damage too slowly resulting in trades at best. Skill-based matchmaking allows for waaay to high pings just to balance the lobby. With the messy p2p connections bungie use, good connections are a must and since shadowkeep I have not had a single 6v6 game without obvious lag disrupting the experience. I dont care if I have to wait a few more minutes in orbit to get a low-ping lobby. Since a high ping lobby is not a little bad, its game breaking bad. Rather no match, than a laggy match. And no its not my internet. I have no issues in game modes prioritizing connection quality, and before they enforced skill-based matchmaking most 6v6 modes were ok as well..
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Thank goodness this is a beta... cannot wait for the final product, it’s been six years, should be really good!
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6 RepliesOhhhhhh so endless vale or javelin are small but twilight gap, anomaly exodus are not just because D1 ? Honestly mate, The -blam!-ing D1 nostalgia will kill this -blam!-ing game. D2 PvP is just D1 PvP now with new guns With the same shitty maps with crap and rocks scattered all over the place to get stuck on and boxes of cargo for shotgun apes to navigate. D1 MAPS ARE BAAAD
