Name a game that’s pushed more of its own player base away

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I find it odd that it's taken this long for most of you to figure out this, for it has been this way since the beginning. I guess too many were too enamored to notice that all this game is and has been since Day 1 of D1, is the grind for things that will be useless in the near future. Only to be replaced by things that are as useless, which will themselves be replaced by things that will be replaced. All that the game ever does is release harder to complete tasks in new areas that make no sense what so ever (even for an imaginary world), requiring more contrived leveling materials, all to be whisked away and reformatted, re skinned, and renamed in the next dlc. Nothing has changed. Those of you who now realize this have just opened your eyes.

Once upon a time there was a fairy tale about power creep...😂 This Game could be not more far away from any power creep. Just boring bullet sponges and mediocre weapons everywhere.

Its a difficult balance between enough challenge to keep the game interesting....but letting the player feel powerful enough that the game play loop is fun, and the power-fantasy is kept intact. Last year, the power fantasy was running wild due to power creep. But you had many of the same problems you're currently upset about. All of our power was piled up in one small corner of the game, and there was no build diversity whatsoever. We all ran the same loadouts, and used the same strategies, because the power distribution was so lopsided. Bungie has reined in the power creep....but now the weapon system has fallen into a bland sameness. The game play hasn't....because Armor 2.0 and the Seasonal mods have allowed for a LOT more play options and build diversity..... ...but its come at the cost of demanding a lot more creativity and build-crafting on the part of the player.. Luke Smith often talks about "The action game getting in the way of the RPG." in his Director's Cut. IMO, this is what he's talking about. You want the game to play and feel more like an action game. You want the guns to feel powerful, crisp, and the TTK to be short enough that you feel that you're doing a lot of damage with them. But if you stray TOO far in that direction...play becomes one-dimensional. You just plow through enemies with the guns...and don't have to bother with any of the games other abilities or mechanics (IOW, where we were last year)....and any RPG elements get mashed flat. OTOH, you stray too far in the other direction....the game starts to not FEEL very good as an action game. This is the problem that The Divison 2 is strugglign with right now. The RPG elements (build-crafting and min-maxing) are so prominent that the "action-game" feels ridiculous at times. Where you find yourself squaring off with an NPC at close range with an M-60 (LMG)....and you have to empty 50 rounds into the thing to get it to die. That is frustrating...and its part of the reason why Massive Entertainment (the devs) is on the brink of war with their playerbase right now. TLDR: Both games right now (Destiny 2 and The Division 2) are both struggling right now to find a balance between "challenge" and "power-fantasy".....and between "action game/tactical shooter" and "RPG". Both devs have ideas about "end-game challenge" that are simply not healthy and not compatible with loot-based games. With loot games, you always want to err on the side of power-fantasy. The whole point of the grinding and build-crafting, etc....is to make your character more powerful....and the game eaiser. Which is why Grandmaster Nightfalls are going to land with a wet splat. You'll have a small number of people who will endure the torture of 12 negative modifiers to get the title and triumph....and then no one is going to bother playing it after that. I think we're seeing this issue because both devs are trying to pioneer a new type of game....and both of them are relatively inexperienced. Massive has the RPG down....but is struggling to get the action game right. Bungie has the action game down...but is trying to figure out how to expand the RPG without watering down the feel of the action game. TLDR the TLDR: I think you're right. The game---this season---has clamped down too hard on the power-fantasy, and is trying to ratchet up the "challenge" in ways that grate against power-fantasy and the core identity of the game. Add that to the waning loot incentive---because power-progression has been mashed flat---and I think you have why so many veteran players are feeling exhausted and frustrated. The grind starts to feel like a pointless hamster wheel, if you can't feel any meaningful increases in power.

I wish they would update Evey strike with one new piece of loot theme around the strike, like have th corrupted have a taken handcanon, and the Scarlett keep have a cool class item or something. I would run all the old strikes again to grind for new cool loot. But I just play pvp and then occasionally pve since there's no good rewards for anything anymore

[quote]“Do you have the time to listen to me whine? About nothing and everything all at once I am one of those melodramatic fools Neurotic to the bone, no doubt about it”[/quote] -Destiny player, circa 2020 Ah this shit is too good. Keep em coming bots!

Serious question here. Do you prefer this or what we had during the same time period of destiny 1(which was nothing) Would ou rather bungie release no content instead

With the buff to autos the recluse and Luna/nf need to go back to their original states.