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Edited by Meitantei Conan: 3/29/2020 6:21:54 PM
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Symmetry & Eriana’s Vow catalyst grind is insane

Edit: I am adding this math to really put the grind to get these catalyst into perspective: Assume 10 mins for a strike, PvP, and gambit match. 10*400= 4000mins. 4000/60 = 66.67 let’s round that to 67 hours. I will be generous and say I play 6 hours a day. 67/6 = 11.167 let’s round that 11.2 days. This means to get this catalyst I need to play 11 days of nothing but strikes, PvP, and gambit matches. That’s 2 weeks or half a month out of a 3 month season just to get these catalyst. Remember getting the catalyst doesn’t mean you can use the catalyst right away! You have to get 500 kills after that to use the benefits of the catalyst. It’s just insane on all levels on how much effort these things require and they make these exotics feel usable. I didn’t play much during shadowkeep and Season of Dawn because of life, but I have played enough to get symmetry and erianas vow catalyst. So far I have 167 and 191 done for each catalyst out of 400 after playing IB this entire week. This is just insane. Doing 233 more strikes, crucible, and/or gambit will take me so long that I don’t think I can finish them until September at best. What makes it even worse is that this is just to get the catalyst to drop. After you get it, you have to get at least 500 kills with those two weapons to actually use the catalyst benefits! On top of that activities like Raids, Dungeons, Nightmare Hunts, Heroic Menagerie, and the newly seraph tower public events don’t even grant any progress. That’s what I do majority of the time I play and they don’t even count towards the catalyst drop. Doing those should award me the most progress towards this because they are the hardest to do! They shouldn’t be this useless for catalyst progression because the goal is get it as a reward for playing whatever you like, it’s clearly not achieving that right now in a way that is reasonable. So what can be done to fix this? The solutions I came up with are: 1. Let the season pass catalyst booster perk work for these things. 2. Give bonus progress to following activities: Raids(3x), Prestige Raids(4x), Dungeons(1.5x), Legend and Master Nightmare Hunts(1.5x&2x), Legend Master and Grandmaster Nightfalls(2x,3x,&4x), 100K Nightfalls(1.5K), Heroic Menagerie(1.5x), Solo Dungeon clears(2x), Winning a match in comp(1.5x), Going flawless in tails gets you 3x for the rest of the week you play I trails. 3. Give us a 2x bonus progress for using the weapon in those activities. It’s just shocking that using Symmetry in IB gave me no extra progress on the catalyst. It’s a good weapon but can you say the same thing about Erianas Vow wth it’s god awful handling? I would love for all 3 of these to be implemented, but with the virus and dead lines to I can understand if only one of these is implemented. If that’s the case please make number 1 and 3 a priority because the majority is not like me doing Raids and legend nightfalls. They play strikes, PvP, and Gambit most of the time so that would be the most beneficial for everyone. From the next season and on though I would like to see these 3 implemented for them. If none of these implemented in the next coming months or next season Tommy’s match book will suffer the same fate as Erianas Vow and I would be very disappointed. I think this way of earning a exotic catalyst is a welcomed addition however if we can iron out the issues I have mentioned above then this will be my preferred way for getting exotic catalyst rather than relying on RNG. I still don’t have so many catalyst like Legend of Acrius because of RNG and this lets me get the catalyst I want without the blessing of the games RNG. I just want a clear path to making my exotics powerful and this system achieves that, but it really needs those issues ironed out to be great. I am not saying exotics and their catalyst should be handed out left and right. I just want to get them faster by working harder like doing a raid instead of strikes. Don’t worry about big 3x or 4x gains because those activities take way longer than 3-4 strikes assuming you do a strike every 10mins. Lastly with everything going around the world, I hope all of you at Bungie and forums are safe. Let me know if you guys have a way to make the grind less insane.

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  • Pro tip friends/allies using season pass weapons also help the progress, and using season pass weapons can progress quests for the other weapons, thats how I got Symmetry Catalyst, used nothing but Eriana and never used Symmetry once outside of a random game of Iron banner 1 time.

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  • Im at 350 ish ! Its SO MUCH FUN ! Roughly the same as getting mauled by Champs in Bunker clearing. Would it hurt to make one solo player version and one groupversion of it ?

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  • I was late to the Destiny 2 party, so got Eriana's Vow catalyst without the season boost, just by playing normally, so it took quite a while, but I did get Symmetry's catalyst using that season's boost. Once the full Symmetry boost was working, Symmetry's progress very quickly overtook EV's. Even after the grind to get the catalysts, you then have to grind the catalyst to unlock its perks.

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  • I got EV catalyst finished last week and I did play quite a bit in shadow keep. YES finishing that catalyst is extremely time consuming. Getting some of the titles takes less time

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  • Good post however it is in direct contradiction with the FOMO seasonal model implemented. You missed out on the boosts to progress that were awarded in the respective season. As a result you must now suffer. This is your punishment. Thank the brainchild who took the game down the FOMO rabbit hole. We all know who this is.

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    • Edited by Nicarus86: 4/1/2020 12:23:31 PM
      Confessing now I didn't read the wall of text (sooooo looooong :P), but I didn't need to in order to understand the frustrations (title said enough for me). I have yet to get the catalyst for Eriana's Vow, and I've been working on that since Shadowkeep dropped. I even got and completed the Symmetry catalyst before Eriana's Vow because it was obtainable so much faster, and at the rate the Tommy's Matchbook catalyst quest is going I'll probably get that sooner as well.

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      • This week mayhem should help with hand cannon just equip and participate, games go quick, still grind but durable.

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      • I just finished vow the other day. Only took 5 months 😂

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      • I got Symmetry done during its respective season. I just grinded playlist activities and it went by fairly quick. Eriana’s vow went by slow. I just finished that one the other day and completed the kills for the catalyst.

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      • Edited by Amazinite: 3/31/2020 12:24:06 PM
        Just don’t aim for it. Basically any activity progresses the catalyst quest, and you should be doing those activities anyways, be it for weekly challenges, completing bounties, grinding Warmind bits, or just fun. Don’t make it a chore. I didn’t get the Eriana’s Vow catalyst during Undying, so last season after I was done everything else I just ran a few strikes a day while doing daily bounties until I got it finished. Nothing crazy like doing strike after strike for a four hour sitting, just a few strikes at a time for fun. Or do something like grind Ordeal nightfalls to finish it. At least then you’re getting useful rewards as you go along.

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        You’re a season late

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        • Biggest issue is how bugged this was hen it came out. Ordeals should of counted. And should of not had to have weapon equiped for progress

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          • Plus there's the 500 kills to get the catalyst

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          • FOMO. You missed out on the 4x progress boosters during those seasons.

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            • "Want, want, want. make stuff easier to get." That's all I read. If you want stuff, you have to do tje things to get the stuff. It's not a right to get catalysts, or to do whatever you want. You want the catalyst? You know what to do. You want to do the raids? Then you don't get the catalyst. Make a choice. This "everything should count towards everything" idea is ridiculous. It's like me expecting Trials weapons to drop from strikes.

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