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3/26/2020 12:44:08 PM
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you would think, by now, people with no friends, wouldn't play a team based game mode.
but nope, they just come to the forums, to cry about other people having friends, and its not fair.
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I play solo. fun most of the time. just go in to shoot stuff. don't always work. lol
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Only things that REQUIRE a premade team to launch are truly a team game mode.
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anything that has teams vs. another team is a team game mode.
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okay 6 people versus two, three
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AGREED. Freelance queues are fine, but they are _Team Based Modes_. There is a dedicated Rumble queue. Maybe the developers should do something that encourages folks to play it.
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You even played banner recently
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no i didn't. i haven't played this game since December, and i can't even remember the last time i set foot in PvP, let alone Iron Banner.
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Many games do have matchmaking to make teams play other teams bungie should at least have a freelance option for those who hate matching teams. Usually when I match teams of six when solo que the game usually expects me to carry the team which I wouldn't mind normally but its definitely annoying when the system expects me to carry when I'm using non meta weapons due to the quest line bungie requires everyone to do to turn in tokens.
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its a team based game mode at some point the player pool will be too diluted to support all options.
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Well that majority of 6 stacks aren't 6 friends. They're the guys making the "IB farm 2.0+ KD be Unbroken" LFG posts, or used them to find their "friends." Those aren't friends. Those are groups of clowns that care far too much about stats. Your typical group of 6 friends aren't all 2.0+ ramming the meta and team fire down your throats. I'd think if Bungie could differentiate between a "stack" and friends and make stack vs stack, IB would be better.
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i'd like to see some proof of this. apparently you care enough about stats, to look up all the people you are playing against, though. even if they aren't friends in that initial game, who's to say they didn't become friends, because they didn't choose to cry about teams, and actually formed one themselves. i feel like you are just making shit up , to justify not having friends.
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They easily could've become friends. I'm just saying your 6 casual palyers getting on to play together after work is NOT the same thing as those 6 players using LFG to find 2.0+ K/D players and have a new group every day. People seems to equate them to the same thing, and I'm just saying they aren't. I literally have guys in my friends list who are with a new group every day because they add the people they LFG for and then just message them directly to stack instead of going to LFG. That's the trend. You get a pool of players from LFG, add them, and then stack when you want. I'm not saying those stacks can't be friends. I'm saying they used LFG to get a stacked team that team balancing would've never made naturally, and then farmed. Whether or not they became friends is irrelevant. My point is that 6 stack is an entirely different animal than 6 casual players entering PvP.
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[quote]You get a pool of players from LFG, add them, and then stack when you want. [/quote] that's called making friends. nothing you have said, is exclusive to anyone. anyone can use LFG. stop making excuses.
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Every raid I Sherpa in Destiny One or raid with people in Destiny One from LFG never got or added me to their friends list. Sorry not all people make friend through LFG.
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never said or implied that. i stated that LFG isn't exclusive to anyone, anyone can choose to use it or not.
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You missed my point entirely. Read the last paragraph.
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got any proof?
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Common sense? The actual LFG section? A real six stack just doesn't operate the same as 6 casual players in a group, friends or not. Friends from LFG or not. That's my point. And I'm using the word "friends" as real world friends; not online friends you only farm PvP with.
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how does any of this matter? a stack is a stack, how good they are is irrelevant.
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That's what I'm debating. I'd hardly put six casuals going in with non-meta loadouts on the same plane as 6 2.0+ K/D sweats. So even if everyone has access to a team, it doesn't matter when insane teams like that exist and the matchmaking can't find them a good match, so it puts them against lesser opponents.
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so how complicated do you think the matchmaking algorithm will have to be to filter out meta stacks, casual stacks, friend stacks, LFG stacks, and what ever else you can come up with? the OP only stated six stack, he did not go into any detail like you are. i fell like you are grasping at straws.
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Edited by Wes: 3/26/2020 8:07:42 PMIt wouldn't be hard to differentiate a six stack of 1% players from the rest. Not that hard at all. Team balancing would never put them on the same team anyways unless all 12 players were top 1%. Edit: I used 1% as an example. I'm not saying to single those players out exclusively.
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so you want to dilute the player pool even more? just because people with no friends don't want a challenge? they are so afraid of their stats actually showing their true level. nothing you offer will have any real impact. everyone gets the same shitty rewards regardless if they win, loose, come in first or last place.
