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3/21/2020 4:15:58 AM
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Speedrunning and Relic/Sword Skating

Many of the destiny 2 speed running community has been outraged due to the recent changes about relic, sword, and worldline skating. The only sense of acknowledgement we have received is a tweet about how the speed community will be able to adapt and overcome. Right there is where our troubles begin. I have been in love with destiny since the moment I logged on to the d1 beta. I also have a Bungie account linked for 9 years, countless hours on destiny 1, destiny 2, and many of the old halo games under Bungie’s name. I have stuck with this community for the entirety of Destiny, and this specific change is what might jeopardize that. After running so many raids and doing so many strikes, I began taking up speed running. One of the only things Keeping me on destiny is hopping on with my fireteam, getting our strats together, and running for hours at a time to try and beat our best times. The way we run speeds have been entirely flipped, to a point where it’s no longer worth running because we cannot come even close to matching our old times. This isn’t an adaptable change if it’s been used over a long 2 years of speedrunning. The way speeds are done is shaped by this, Bungie taking this away and shunning the speed community without any insight as to its removal, even though it doesn’t hurt any aspect of the game or community, just shows how little they care about the community I am so proud to be a part of. The runs that we spent days and literal weeks perfecting through trial and error can no longer be beaten. This change is killing our community, the majority of us who ran speeds have already uninstalled. We are all upset because we feel directly targeted. The rework to swords was actually was handled very well, however the removal of glide during sword/relic animations came out of nowhere. Worldline Zero was one of the few weapons destiny still has that felt truly exotic. The ability to speed around the map was so enjoyable, and made the mundane tasks in destiny slightly more bearable, and it made our speed runs much more unique than any game I’ve ever played. While this mechanic was never intended, the community has fallen in love with it, it’s use in casual play, hardcore raiding, and exploring the map simply cannot be matched. When it comes to the issue of character diversity, the opportunity for positive change really shines. We’ve seen how the removal of skating affects the community, there’s an opportunity to bring it back for all characters.

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  • I don’t care about speed running. I care that sword skating was fun.

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    • Very well worded i hope someone from bungie reads this and rethinks the skating changes

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      • Edited by baked: 3/21/2020 6:39:23 PM
        well said. and to people that are saying we should stop crying and overcome this: no we rather stop playing that play the game on these changes. i myself am just here for the content i already paid for and if these changes dont get reverted ill 100% leave, nothing to keep me here. devs just care about FREE pvp instead of pleasing their paying customers. this seasons content alone feels like a huge ripoff considering i could play trials on a f2p account and getting our favourite movement tech removed for not given reason at all just signals me that im unwanted in this games playerbase and should take my money elsewhere

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      • Edited by Mythic, Harbinger of Light: 3/21/2020 6:43:06 AM
        It always pissed me off watching a speed run video, but that’s just because it proves how much better the game runs on PC vs Consoles. Either way it doesn’t effect anyone or even brake the game, as to why they removed it; we’ll never know... It would seem that since the launch of Shadowkeep, Bungie’s mane goal is to piss off their own player-base to the point we all quit. I’m really confused at the direction they want to take their own game at this point. Forsaken was the peak of what was amazing about Destiny, since then they’ve lost sight of what really matters—FUN. We don’t play a fantasy game to feel weaker, we play it to feel stronger and to have FUN. Here’s Bungie’s definition of “fun”: To struggle with something until it pisses you off. To feel weak where power is supposed to help. To feel like all the weapons in your arsenal are worse than a NERF gun.

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        • Imagine taking speed running seriously enough to rant about it.

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          • Thank god warlock skating got nerfed and isn’t possible anymore 😂

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          • -blam!- the Destiny speedrunning community. People like Modern tryhard are dicks. Seriously, he’s bullied me so many times.

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          • Part of speed running is finding new strats. Of course that's going to be a little different in a live services game that's always being patched (and especially a Bungie developed game since they can never decide how they want one thing to be and leave it alone...)

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          • Well said guardian. But I'm gonna be honest here....my eyes went crossed a few times reading this! Paragraphs!

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          • Edited by Seraphim Crypto: 3/21/2020 8:36:16 AM
            I don't understand what's the issue with not being able to achieve the old speedrun times. You have a pre-update 2.8.0. time, and now you do a post-update 2.8.0. leaderboard. Sure speedruns are slower post-2.8.0.. Some things will be impossible now, like doing SotP's Sparrow part without a Sparrow. But you will find other ways to break the game. You will find more effective ways to cut down on time. Do you think people would have found out about old strats like Sword Skating by accepting things the way they were and sticking to old stuff? Destiny just challenges you even more by being an environment which can change at a whim. Adapt, improve, overcome. Isn't that what speedrunning is about?

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            • If it helps with slowing it down during match made actives, than it is a good, nay a [b]great[/b] thing!

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            • and some will say just start a new record bracket. pre patch , and post patch. kinda like they did with all the stats. yah i dont like when others decide what i choose to value ,or chase. they need to stop dictating how we play.

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