Barricade was already useless seeing it was basically left behind in the dual primary meta. (Same with rift)
That being said fusions already take 2 shots to destroy it without a 60% damage buff.
Revoker takes 0 ammo to destroy a barricade seeing you get all of your shots back that you take at the barricade. RIP barricade 2020.
On top of how useless barricades are they have a long deploy time and will proc while sliding just to add insult to injury. (Same with rift)
I'm not sure why barricade needed a nerf.. but hunter dodge which cuts aim assist/cuts the tracking of grenades/cuts the tracking of supers like storm caller/cuts the chaining of arc web and dune marchers/reloads weapons and procs kill clip/can give you your melee back to chain ohk throwing knives/grants you added mobility on all classes where mobility is king inside of PvP/bottom tree arcstrider can tank almost every super in the game due to lightning reflexes etc etc all by just hitting a button every 9 seconds and that's apparently completely ok and balanced.
I'm honestly not sure how you could bring barricade out of the dual primary meta to make it viable and compete with all that ^^^. But I do know what you could do with rift. Rift isn't bad if your team is extremely passive but if your team is mobile at all (which they should be) you'll be taking yourself out of engagements to pop a rift for your team essentially leaving people in 2v3's. An easy solution to this problem is change rift from what it is and make it the healing grenade so you can buff your teammates on the fly. To be able to compete with hunter dodge it should immediately give your teammates full health/an over shield and a damage buff for 10 seconds. Yes I know this would cause a power creep but I'd imagine it's pretty hard to maintain balance in abilities when hunter dodge is so absurdly powerful in comparison to all of the other class abilities.
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1 ReplyYou mean buff it, buff is make it better nerf is make it suck.
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They need to add a way for aerial protec, side protec, quicker deploy, regen and health, then we're good.
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7 RepliesBudgie loves their hunters. It wouldn’t surprise me if they buff invis and dodge.
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1 ReplyI see what you are saying but hunters have nothing to help capture heavy or control zones. If a titan places a barricade right before the heavy, they will take the heavy before the barricade is destroyed.
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1 ReplyMan when put like this, this is seriously messed up. This post needs some major upvotes to get it noticed more..
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1 ReplyRemember when everyone said Revoker was shit? That's how dense this player group is.
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1 ReplyEdited by Swiftchao: 3/3/2020 6:55:59 AMI was shocked when I saw that they were gonna buff shotgun and fusion damage to barricades to 60% when they already destroy the barricade incredibly quick it's already the most underutilized ability in pvp and that 20%ish health buff ain't gonna do anything to save it
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3 RepliesDodging should take longer to recharge and/or shouldn’t reload weapons or recharge melee.
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2 RepliesDodge cooldown needs to be doubled.
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I completely agree!
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1 ReplyBesides being the best ability to lockdown one of the most powerful tools in PvP, that being power ammo? Yeah just make a post to complain about dodge like everyone else
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1 ReplyThe only upside is people will be using their special ammo to destroy it. That’s how I’m kinda looking at it.
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1 ReplyRevoker shots don’t return if you shoot barricades. Barricades and rifts can be used to claim territory if your using them right. Hunter dodge won’t get you heavy or allow your whole team to retreat mid fight heal almost instantly and push while the other teams waiting to heal. You can also snipe shotgun fusion and super a hunter while the dodge.
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1 ReplyEdited by Artisan: 3/2/2020 8:59:23 PMI think it was over the top. Basically dictated by one game mode , Trials, where just for once it will be useful. Consolation prize is I doubt anyone will be using fusions at all after they nuked the top features. Only if Shotguns end up being near unusable will folks pick them up again.
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2 RepliesRight? coming from a warlock main. nerfing the barricade made no sense. It didnt provide that much of an advantage in the first place.
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1 ReplySoooooooooooo you want them to implement a healing grenade like they did in Foraken for the middle tree solar class (well) ???????????????
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1 ReplyI was too lazy to read, in what way did they nerf the barricade?
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3 RepliesDodge does not break aim assist and with some scenarios, actually buffs aim assist. Why do i people still think this is a thing?
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1 ReplyEdited by BlueKiBlast: 3/2/2020 11:45:28 AMFunny how everyone talks about revoker when I bet the next twab is gonna be "revoker no longer generated ammo when hitting titan barricade" and everyone will flip their shit.
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3 RepliesGiven that we'll most likely get Solar Battery next season, I'll mainly use it for the panic overshield so I can get away from a tight spot. Never really used Burning Maul before, but if they're not nerfing it, well...
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6 RepliesRift is the most awesome ability ever. Oh, did you press a button? Here's increased damage or passive health regeneration and a little arc buddy, and insane range and reload speed, or wallhax and enhanced radar. Rift has the longest cool down for a reason. Barricade could get some love, specifically rally barricade, but I think the barricades will be fine.
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3 RepliesI see you don't use Revoker. [quote]Revoker takes 0 ammo to destroy a barricade seeing you get all of your shots back that you take at the barricade. RIP barricade 2020.[/quote] This is NOT true. Reversal of Fortune does not prock when shooting baricades. Try it next time in Crucible.
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11 RepliesYep...all true...hunter dodge and jump breaking PvP balance since 2015. Titans had one saving grace in D1. Twilight garrison which was given to warlocks. Titan population might actually fall below warlocks this season in PvP. Rip
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1 ReplyBarricade is OP in elimination for easily reviving your teammates, but the hunter dodge is complete unbalanced.
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10 RepliesYou clearly don't know how to use either rift or barricade if you think they are useless. And nobody is going to waste special ammo to destroy a barricade that only lasts 15 seconds, besides revoker but revoker is a separate problem.