Trials light levels WOULD HAVE BEEN FINE if trials stayed in the game... BUT.... it didn’t and all the pve players had an entire YEAR to get a power level edge over pvp players. Iron banner is never released right away on an expansion drop so all pve players have time to get an edge over pvp players every single time and then pvp players don’t want to play iron banner because they are at a literal damage disadvantage. Because all of the things in pvp that give you high light also include light levels and are always dropped a while after an expansion is released, the pvp players are forced to play pve. Pve players have never been forced to play pvp in order to do well in raids. You don’t have to go flawless to have an advantage in high pve stuff. We feel like we are forced to suffer through boring content and grind it over and over. It sacrifices so much of our time when we all wish we could be doing what we actually find fun, pvp, but if we choose to spend the little time we have playing the game for fun, us pvp players get an automatic extreme disadvantage under players that would normally get steamrolled by us. This is really frustrating . When I shoot a guy 3 times im the head with Austringer he should die regardless of how many times he has run through a stupid raid. I should not be dying from one punch from a striker titan. I’m usually a good player and I always am willing to help other people and spread positivity in the community but because I’m lower light I can’t do that right now and it honestly makes me really mad. It feels different than anything else when you hear how happy someone is when you get there flawless or to 5500 in comp. Because light level advantages exist, that cant happen right now. at least tone down how much of an effect light levels play on damage values. Keep in mind that my damage to others is reduced at the same time that their damage is increased so if you add both of those percentages together that is actually how much of a disadvantage a low light player is at, which can be very extreme for a low power gap. I encourage the developers to look into making it so either the high light players either don’t do more damage or don’t take any less damage. If one of these is fixed then it might help. if people still want light levels to be a part of it This may be a good compromise as well as releasing iron banner the week that an expansion drops so pvp players have a chance to get a light boost. No hard feelings just trying to contribute to this community. Have a good rest of your day

We got it guys, the Artifact won't help on Trials. And pinnacle gear doesn't influence much our light level.

Really the same can be said for god roll guns

True, this is not real competitive.

You get XP from bounties Shaxx has daily and weekly crucible bounties You play crucible I'm not seeing a problem here

ChronusMax FTW 🙂

[quote]I just watched the premiere chief and iunno about the light level advantage thingy. I have neither the time or the interest to grind power level as a dedicated pvp player. My opinion Light level advantage for trials is built for unskilled pve players to gain an edge over skilled pvp players. Bungie doesn’t care about their pvp players I hope I’m just dumb and I misheard lightlevel advantage[/quote] Yep, LL advantage is moronic. I don't care what they do with the artifact as long as supers have a limitation of only twice per 7 rounds for each player. No reason to turn trials into a super sh!tshow.

100% agree with you. Power Level & Artifact in Trials is a HUGE MISTAKE !!!

I agree to I think trails should be off players skills with primaries and disable supers and heavy weapons to make players actually try and power level shouldn't matter.

By the way your not actually the “shit” if all u did play is freelance comp

This move clearly shows Bungie’s disengagement from reality. They are so far up themselves it’s not funny. Zero Clue. Bungie be like - “play the game how we want it to be played or -blam!- off” Community - “We won’t play, this is outrageous” Also the Community - *plays, spends big $ in Eververse.

ALL I WANT TO SAY IS THEY DON'T REALLY CARE ABOUT US! ALL I WANT TO SAY IS THEY DON'T REALLY CARE ABOUT US!

Light level needs to exist, but they have to do it right. There needs to be a cap. After 10 levels above the other player, no more multiplier. Or get rid of it entirely and put a light cap on people.