Going by the latest Twab, bungie is going for the anti-power fantasy by nerfing everything.

I am not surprised at this latest bunch of nerf's, its just the way the game is going. Seasons are just a generic horde mode with a couple of sets of armour and a season pass with rewards like a massive five legendary shards. If you do find a set up you like its using its just nerfed down by the control freaks at Bungie who want you to play what they want, when they want, with what they want. This is yet more of their laggy bug ridden PVP being allowed to rule PVE. Twas ever thus. Like a lot of people I am jaded with the game. Jaded with the fact that Bungie seem intent on just malleting down what they dont want you to use, remember when they said that they could balance individual weapons ?? .. and here we are with entire classes being adjusted. If you want to know what is happening at Bungie right now go read the reviews from current and former employees on Glassdoor. If you still think this studio is worth supporting then fine, personally I am pretty much done. Next Season Pass is a Pass for me as I simply don't believe that Bungie are capable of producing content worth my time anymore. And top be honest the ignoring of the community, while declaring the opposite, along with their cash grab shop, the wokeness, all matched up to the deaf ear they aim at the faults this game has indicates to me this game is way past its best. Forsaken was the high watermark and its all downhill from here on folks. I took a long time away and recently got back in as three of my friends started playing in mid January, only one is left and even then he cant be bothered that much. Why are Bungie blanket nerfing everything when their game is still so confusing for new players, I had to take one of these guys to the Shipwright to pick up the Red War, Osiris and Warmind storylines. Nothing is explained. We still, despite years of asking cannot get bounties from orbit. But Bungie soon made sure Eververse had a tab so we could shop from orbit and that our character screen showed how much Silver we have. One of my three friends thought Gambit sounded fun until he played and found out that if you won the first round you were handicapped in the second, he quit the round when I told him how getting your primevil first means the other team get constant invasion and spam you with blockers. His comments ?? .. "So what's the fricking point in trying then ??", that was tame compared to him finding out that the Invader gets his target highlighted and a massive shield. The other day I started hitting an invader with a Hammerhead and took down about 75% of his shield with a full mag before he turned round and melted me with three rounds from Thunderlord from full health .. where the balance for that Bungie ?? .. there is so much of how the game plays that needs tuned but Bungie are too busy balancing how you play the game. Who is seriously looking forward to the next horde mode boss with regenerating health and a stomp move from 2104 that still catapults you into a wall for a mediocre weapon no one will remember in three months ?? .. This game used to be about building memories and feeling powerful, D1 had its flaws but I always felt it had a great community that largely loved the game. Now its forgettable content and wondering what the points is even grinding a weapon only for it to be nerfed into oblivion because the Dev's dont like some statistics. September is going to be a crunch time for Bungie. The Season Pass is finished and even if I did want to get it I would just wait a month or two and get it half price. Bungie are on their own now and their playerbase is disappearing as they blatantly funnel all their creativity into creating things for Tess to flog at ridculous prices for Silver that is priced so you have to buy more than you need. More shady behaviour from the studio that brought you XP throttling, the "we meant the 0.00000004 auto rifle buff" and the classic "more rewarding than ever two tokens and a blue". The waffle about making friends and memories just sounds like a hollow soundbite now Bungie. Its clear that you are lazy, greedy and more interested in emptying our wallets than making us happy. In September one of the most eagerly awaited games of recent years, Cyberpunk 2077, comes out from a studio that has a reputation you can only dream of having. My money and time is going to them because right now I am tired of so much with Destiny and this TWAB does nothing to make me hopeful for the games future. So much needs to be looked at yet Bungie are sat thinking "Hey, you know what ?? .. Let's make another bullet sponge Nightfall level no one asked for !!" .. meanwhile the console UI si slower than a Bungie update process .. in all honesty this game and Bungie are beyond all parody now.

Remember when eververse wasn't the entire focus of the game?

They give us power and people cry we are two powerful, so they nerf it. Then they cry that we are two weak, so they nerf other stuff to try and make the previous nerf feel not so bad. It's down hill from here boys and girls. Ya f'n assholes ruined the game once again!! We need buffs damnit and our supers need to feel like a super!

nowadays in destiny2 you dont just feel not powerful, but also insulted and maybe even ripped off by eververse :)

People need to stop talking about this "power fantasy" crap. It's pathetic. You're a space ninja, with magical powers, who has super abilities, can magic grenades out of thin air, comes back to life, and wields a huge variety of enormous guns. How much more power do people want. Or is it just to be an unkillable god. Games should be challenging or they are not fun. More power makes it less challenging. Its too hard? go play farmville

I don’t think you guys know the difference from power fantasy and straight up overpowered or in need of adjustments. Snipers will still deal a ton of burst damage, instead of izanagi players might want to pick up the whisper again or use regular snipers to deal dps. The nerfs inly brought more options to the table, you can still do what you normally do and still barely feel a difference. You can also just run a subclass that gives buffs or debuffs if you want damage so bad. Tractor cannon, nightstalker, well of radiance, titan punch that debuffs. Its not like dealing a huge amount of burst damage is going away, the power fantasy is still there.

“Raids that are actually a challenge. not a jumping puzzle, an encounter then a boss fight.” Literally every raid, including every single raid from D1 can be described like this.

Back in D1 before trials of the nine came in and started all the calls for nerfs?

I see what you are saying... But d2s power fantasy is good. Far above d1. D2s content sucks and their loot farming options are scarce. Raids are too mechanical heavy putting too much pressure on all players in a team. ^ this is where your power fantasy claim is true.. as we grind our way through the challenging end game content and grew our power and loot in d1 that is designed to manhandle said endgame.. it was fun to just get a couple of randoms and take them through a raid and feel all cool because we manhandle as they are going through the learning curve and struggle.. then the talking about the about the loot that they hope to get etc... So you are right, but for the overall game, we are too strong in d2 for the core grind.. average to below average with endgame content according to which one was not effected by bungies magical power advantage system that is not consistent at all... and yeah.. I was ocd-ing on some specific weapons that I could farm and then it hit me.. not only are there not many options.. some of the hoops you have to jump through like on the moon is just not enticing or fun.