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Edited by KCPT1981:
2/20/2020 2:36:05 PM
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Slide shotguns - more annoying than anything
Accuracy seems way to high, damage is still too high, everyone and their goddamn family is running them and just spamming sliding and doming. What’s the point of being a super powered death machine when all you do is slide into second base non stop and just aim up. Have to decrease the accuracy, damage output and overall gun control.
Doorway in front of you? Slide and pull trigger.
Guardian 20+ ft from you? Slide and pull trigger. Guardian jumping overhead slide and pull trigger. Guardian with a super? Slide and pull trigger.
May seem I’m being a hater but despised shottys in D1 due to this, it feels even worse now more than ever. Rather play 20+ matches in a row against Erentil/Wizened rebuke vs the hot garbage that is this shotgun fiesta. At least I know how to play around that, but shotguns? Yuck
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Lord of Wolves works perfectly against sliding shotguns. That’s how I solved that issue
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Snipers are more annoying....
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Edited by YATM: 2/24/2020 2:27:17 AMBungie has heard your concerns and has vowed to improve shotguns in PvP. Players sliding around the corner should find their one shot kill far more reliable with shotguns in season of the worthy. [spoiler]seriously, read the twab [/spoiler]
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Using a sideways shotgun with StompEEs makes me wanna play the initial D soundtrack. Drifting along the floor and getting salty messages about stompEEs hunters ruining the crucible gives me such a rush!
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Apes are effective against other apes, stop peeking corners when you know someone’s there. I just back pedal all day and stick them in the dome with knives, use a HHSN, or use a sidearm/SMG. Smart defensive playstyles at medium-long range works wonder against this current meta, just keep a reliable sidearm in your pocket and don’t be afraid to walk away from a fight. Drives the apes crazy. They are super predictable once you start cutting a groove into this way to play.
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2 RepliesYou can always use Telesto to counter them. It works. About 97% of the time. But it works.
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Exactly that's how shotguns are supposed to work 😂😂😂.
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Radar though ? I mean ofc everyone dislikes getting baited but it freaking happens man just deal with it and wait at least til the upcoming SG nerfs.
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1 ReplySo it’s their fault you’re getting baited around corners? And just so you know max range for a Mindbenders w/Slideshot is about 9 [b]meters[/b] or 27 ft. In other games it’s much further. Shotguns were Nerfed 12 times in D1. And already a few times in D2. Nerfing then won’t change the fact you’re getting outplayed. No matter how they’re doing it. The maps, map layouts movement speed and ammo Economy are the reasons why they’re so prevalent. And while they could take away scavenger perks aggressive players are still going to push you. The masses do not want to go back to Yr3 of D1 or Yr1 of D2. They were very boring meta’s. That sucked all the fun out of the crucible. Everyone running around teamshooting sucked azz.
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3 RepliesSounds like you never grew, improved or learned to counter them. Its easy lol. Definitely just a whiner.
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5 RepliesJust look at your radar
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[quote]At least I know how to play around that, but shotguns?[/quote] And there's the problem. Not that people side/shotgun. If this is such a pervasive problem, you should have plenty of practice against it.
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22 RepliesYou definitely don't play comp.. if you try shotgun rush someone in comp you're gonna have a bad time. Besides erentils range is straight cancer with firmly planted backup plan
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Your playing against good players with shotguns. There’s yer problem!!
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4 RepliesHere come all the shotgunners coming to defend their scummy/cheesy "tactics" and instead of saying "You're right, they need a tweak" they'll lambast you and make it seem you're a kinderguardian when in reality it's map sizes and shotgun range/perks that are what are wrong.
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2 RepliesI agree. Shotguns are far to good. They need their wings clipped
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9 RepliesEdited by DownyKitten: 2/20/2020 10:39:07 PMIf you're not going to ape, stay out of shotgun/hhsn/shoulder charge range. Other ohk weapons to counter are fusions, arbalest, snipers, and grenade launchers. I dont see any reason why you shouldnt die to a shotgun at very close ranges. You got outplayed. Annoying, yes, but strategize and overcome instead of calling for nerfs on things you dont know how to handle yet.
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I agree, delete fusion rifles.
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10 RepliesThat's not nearly as bad as -blam!-ing handheld supernova and it's football field range😑
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Shotguns have had so many metas. Since universal remote and blink to felwinters f- stick going into the map-a-dor 64. Even after the removed shot package shotguns would still kill at insane ranges. It’s time they added a new meta. If you doubt me play rumble for an hour. Stomp hunters and mind benders evvvvvvverywhere.
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1 ReplyNothing will EVER be as annoying as you whining pieces of refuse.
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2 RepliesI just adapt. I accept that it's a strategy since D1.
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Wow! Are you some kind of pellet magnet? Maybe play something else if you're gonna get so salty over how others play the game. To grown ups, this kind of whingy post is laughable
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1 ReplyYou sound like someone who really doesn’t know what their talking about. No shotgun in the game kills from 20m. Not even close. I did some weapon testing myself in private matches and found out that the consistent range for shotguns to one shot is actually 6m. Anything after that is heavy affected by rng bullet spread. I’ve been accused of 1hk someone from 15m and what these players don’t understand is that if you’re one shot, then the shotgun will kill you from farther since you have very low health left. Only bad players don’t see this. Also it’s very easy to outplay someone using a shotgun sliding or aping. Good players use their primaries more than their shotguns. Imo all special weapons are fine where they are with the exception of erentil. Which seems to be getting what it needs to fall in line. Sidearms are great now, snipers are fine even with the aim assist they abuse. There’s a way to play against them. Shotguns are perfectly fine. And fusions are also great. Now stop the damn complaining and get good.
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Backpedal and shoot. EZ. Or if it’s around a corner, jump above them.
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Edited by Redacted6245: 2/21/2020 2:13:35 PMSidearms are a really effective counter against shotguns with a little practice Not going to lie, i use shotguns myself (don’t hate on me) but I finally started using sidearms a few weeks ago after watching a few different videos on them and I’m really enjoying the change Maybe worth a try?
