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Community : " Please Remove Affinity Restrictions Or Let Us Toggle It"

Bungie Response: " How about we CHARGE you to CHANGE affinity?" ------------------------------------------------- [b]The Obvious resolution to this was to make affinity swappable WITHOUT charging the user.[/b] ------------------------------------------------- Let me make this clear. The thing that angers people, is you are ignoring the one thing they have of ACTUAL value, and that's [b] THEIR TIME[/b]. The more you demand people grind out assets to trade in for roadblocks you yourselves put into this game, the more people are going to complain and leave. And trading money for time only works for whales. so you can forget that. P.S. Yes, we know streamers are going to complain because all they DO is play Destiny, but god forbid people play a different game between downtime. A game should be FUN, not WORK.

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  • I think the ability to switch it is good enough, except for how expensive it is to change masterworked gear. That just doesn’t make sense to me

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    • You are asking Bungie to break the loot system, and Bungie (for once) is smart enough NOT to do it.

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      • It shouldnt be changeable - it simply shouldnt exsist. It restricts builds such as cannon (void)/shotty (arc) and was done purely to extend playtime and force you to get 3 seperate sets - which even then you can maximize efficiency with due to the above issue ^

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        • Grind your life away with 980 nightfalls

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        • Gotta love when people forget it not their game and try to demand that everything changes to fit what they want. Lol

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          • It's an excellent change!

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          • Edited by SMOKEY D 7: 2/15/2020 5:52:03 PM
            I like the changes. I personally like grinding for good rolls. If they got rid of affinity then once you get a good roll on one set of armor then you never need to look for another set. By the way their are plenty of people who put in hours in this game that don't stream. Most people who complain about streamers play a few hours a week or a month and want everything immediately.

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            • Edited by Althanash: 2/15/2020 8:52:59 PM
              I can't see why people like yourself are complaining over a compromise. If you can't find time to grind then I don't know what else to tell you. The deal with armor affinity is adequate. Why? Because it's so easy to farm out the materials. Stay with me on this. 950 Nightfalls drop prisms / exotics / shards / cores and it's the easiest of the harder tiers. Pit of Heresy drops masterworked gear at the boss. - melted down - 6 prisms / 6 cores. Spider- Daily rotation of materials to buy for other items. People complaining about this really aren't thinking it through. They're using this to take stabs at bungie for compromising. Without eroding an already easy grind. I work 4/7 days a week. Do I grind in those 4 days I work? If I have time before work sure. If not then I'll wait. Destiny isn't exactly going anywhere. The only thing I would say is for raids to have Ascendant Shards drop at boss fights. 2 per fight since that'll make you have 6 per week. (across 3 chars). Since it takes 3 of them to masterwork exotics. (using garden as an example it would have to be tuned out for things like last wish or Leviathan)

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              • I don’t mind paying some time to change affinity but they are too costly.

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              • Shortsighted. If it wasn’t expensive to swap, everyone would only need a single set of armor for the rest of the game’s lifespan. Say goodbye to incentive, and player population with it. This is a win-win solution that doesn’t sabotage the game.

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                • Edited by whateverman7: 2/16/2020 8:48:53 PM
                  Yep, this the hot' it' take lol. Legit question: how many pieces of armor do you have do you plan on changing? I'm asking because i bet it's not as much as you and others ranting about the costs are trying to make it seem. Which means it isnt gonna cost that much in materials to change it, and yall just complaining to complain. I understand people wanting to change elements without a cost, but those same people are ignoring that bungie wants people to play the game, which is what all devs want. This is a trade-off, which is ok.

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                  • The ability to toggle again makes it not worth the toggle.

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                    It’s all going concording to plan 😂🤣 - old

                    I remember a few years back when Deej said Bungie would respect our time in the future.

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                    • This. TOGGLE IT. Or remove it all together

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                    • That's how I feel every time I look at playing Destiny 2 now. It's a job, a grind. It's a theme park of grinding for stuff. Pick your ride & grind it for rewards. It's design is what I've seen mentioned here, as a Skinner Box. And the encounter design, ugh. Some how Luke Smith thinks that ads spam is good game design. That removing the power fantasy for the players is a good thing. Dumping story in walls of text is easier than telling the story & having the players play through it. I'm pretty much done with D2 & it's arse backwards anti-player design. I'm seriously considering getting D1 again to play casually.

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                      • [quote]The more you demand people grind out assets to trade in for roadblocks you yourselves put into this game, the more people are going to complain and leave.[/quote]Is Destiny the only RPG you've ever played?

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                        • Gotta pad out player playing time somehow 😂

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                        • Edited by Mr. Morale: 2/16/2020 8:37:43 AM
                          Imma be real with you man, the fact that your aren’t considering how much stress you’ll put on the engine, and your console, to load up your entire mod collection is worrying. The affinity system is a cheap way to reduce stress, have you not noticed frame drops when trying to change a mod when that mod list has been increased? Imagine all 160+ trying to load onto your screen. Fine, we can reduce to 10 slots to show your mods, now you gotta look through the mess to find them. The affinity system is an easy to use system, it’s a category for mods, it helps ease things for the engine and console. The ability to change the affinity is more than enough, some people are still on their generation 1 consoles, I hear people complaining about lag in the menagerie, I have no clue what they’re complaining about. Now imagine those players having to load up a list? Insane demand to make without realizing your nullifying a portion of the player base.

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                          • a game should be fun and not annoying... as many things in D2 are strange to find an FPS that feels like it was designed by a vindictive 12 year old

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                          • Charging an upgrade module or enhancement core to change affinity is reasonable, however the obvious problem isnt that they're charging, if you've low masterwork level gear it's not bad, but given the costs to Masterwork gear, the cost to change affinity on an item you've Masterworked because of its good stats, is far too much.

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                          • Edited by Yanoos: 2/16/2020 1:01:17 PM
                            I would almost be ok with the upcoming affinity system if it weren’t so FREAKING hard to get ascendant shards. And also enhancement prisms and share could be a little easier too. I think they should just get rid of finest matterweave and just allways have a very small chance that enhancement cores drop from yellow health enemies.

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                          • I’m not a streamer and I don’t think changes are needed. Bungie want affinities and I’m fine with that it all honesty - doesn’t really hold builds back all too much as there are plenty of generic mods that slot into everything. It’s about making meaningful choices and I think it accomplishes that. Know many people want things ‘easy’ or their way but this isn’t something I agree with.

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                          • Bungie can't stop the shenanigans. That's why I uninstalled D2 and never bought silver. Bungie devs are asshats.

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                          • Edited by High Noon at Jötunn Saloon: 2/15/2020 9:18:37 PM
                            Listen to me....NOTHING changes until people stop buying silver. End of story. The only time Bungie actually moved the needle toward the player is when the game completely died beyond embarrassing numbers after Osiris dropped. They were forced to improve to bring players back. Why would they try when complete idiots dump money into their accounts so their Phoenix Protocol can look a little less ugly?

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                          • [b][u] Community[/u][/b] : hey Bungie, This game isn't doing so well. After wading through the heavy amount of the toxicity on these forums and making even compromises; here's an organized list of changes that would get us to like the game more. *Hands over scroll* [b][u]dmg[/u][/b] : oh sweet, that makes this SO much easier. [i][b]French voice[/b][/i] : [u]The following Thursay[/u] [i][u]TWAB[/u][/i] : Hey everyone! It's a glorious day given to us by the Traveler and here are some updates. -Mara isn't coming back anytime soon -We lost the sticky note with the SIVA plotline - We were going to make a new super, but making content is hard despite our multiple degrees in that exact field -A note from the devs: [quote]Thanks for the toilet paper. Send 4-ply next time, you peasants[/quote] -oh and we're going to make Tess immutable and 15% louder Cheers!! [b][u] Community[/u][/b] : We thought you guys were "always listening" [b][u]dmg[/u][/b] : We are! :-) [b][u] Community[/u][/b] : Ok, what [b]EXACTLY[/b] do you think that word means? [b][u]dmg[/u][/b] : *pulls out notecard* We at Bungie are more than happy to hear feedback from our community. We want to make the game the best it can be. I like working here :) [b][u] Community[/u][/b] *tired sigh* you know what? Just put the devs on the mic... [b][u]dmg[/u][/b] : oh you can't do that. Only Lord Dato and I, their humble and meek servant may be in the Elder gods presence [b][u] Community[/u][/b] : what the and I cannot stress this enough [spoiler]fúçk[/spoiler]

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                            • I am okay with paying something, but the price is excessive rn. I understand they want to keep some balance mod wise and that's fine, but the price to change it needs to be not that extreme.

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