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My birth father left when I was 2 & I had a string of worthless father figures who wanted nothing to do with me, literally telling me that I was a little homosexual, I was worthless, I should have never been born, I was a monster, I was an idiot, I would help my mother by wandering off into the woods & dying. All I wanted though, was that tv dad, until I wanted no dad at all. Then, my mom met my current step-father. He showed me what a father is. He has never said, "I love you" to me, but he has shown it by being there for me since I was 18. I still cannot call him Dad though. I call him Pop, because every other male who I had to call dad, was worthless, except for the fact that they showed me what [i]not[/i] to do as a father. I wanted kids at first, thought I would show them all by being the best father ever. I realized later that was a childish sentiment & decided that I did not want kids. What if I could not be a good father? What if they had a messed up head like my ex-dads all said I had? I resolved not to have kids. Then I met my wife. I fell in love with her, with who she pretended to be. She said she wanted 4 kids, I told her I wanted zero kids. She said if I wanted her, I had to give her 2 kids, 1 boy & 1 girl, with the option for more. I told her that the only way we would have more, is if I started smoking the herb, because 2 already was a lot for me to handle. Could I handle a 3rd? I don't know, but I don't think so & I have always been good at knowing my limits. I tell my kids that I love them everyday. When they come home & ignore me, I pretend to get all mad & huffy, asking them if they forgot something. They start smiling & pretend to find things they might have "forgot" to do. I pretend to get even more angry, then I fake cry as I run up the stairs to my room, where they will chase me & dog pile on me and we start wrestling & giving hugs. I may not be the best father, but I try to be the best father I can be. So when I look at these guys who father children & leave, then act all proud that they have 6 kids by 6 different women, I see a double fool. First, you are a fool to father a child you have no intention of being there for & second, you are a fool for all the joy you are missing out on. That said, you have to know yourself. There is no way I could have handled a kid in my late teens, early 20's. I was 30 when my wife got pregnant. My temper was under control & I was calmer. I had the wildness out of my system. My buddy though, he & his wife have 6 or more kids. They had their first right out of high school. He is such a good dad, it makes me happy for his kids & take notes as to what I can improve on. A father can make all the difference in the world, but if we are out there lifting on high these men who just dump their seed & run, we are just going to keep getting the same result. You don't even have to be married, just be there. No child cares, they just want you to care about them, to spend time with them & to love them.
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  • I'm not crying, you are! Seriously though, good fathers/father figures are such an important thing. My dad's dad left when he was nine, and it gave him some trust and abandonment issues that still last to today (my grandmother made up for it though, and he conquered the biggest parts of that, even got in touch with his dad). But despite that setback, he was/is a terrific father to me, and has been a huge positive influence in mine, and my whole family's lives. Fathers truly do have a huge part to play in how people develop, and through them many lives can be changed for the better. Good on you for being a good dad and for getting past the loss of the man who should've been there. It truly makes a difference.

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    I haven't had an easy go of this life & as such, I am working hard to make it an easier go for my kids, so they have as many choices as they could want for careers & whatnot, as well as hopefully raising them to be well adjusted, but I am their father & I think there is ample evidence of my insanity, lol. My mom tried to fill the role of a dad & as such, I have picked up some feminine traits that have led people to sometimes question my sexuality. Personally, I think that is about the stupidest shit & I like who I am, so I have no urge to act any tougher than I am, especially when you consider I was doing security for biker & fraternity events by 18, then became a bouncer for a strip club by 21, lol. Why share that? You may not wonder, I know someone reading this is wondering. If any little bit of my life can help someone or show them they are not alone, that there is light at the end of each tunnel you drive through, that the struggle is worth it, then I feel like I have done something with the hell I went through that is positive for others & not just me. Yeah, I used it as fuel to push me through life, but that same rage fueled drive also caused me to make mistakes & -blam!- up, so there is that, lol. I am glad you have a good father & I am glad he is well adjusted!

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  • At the end of the day, it's all about trying to make the world better for the next generation. You have vastly improved what your kids get to live through by being there for them. Same with my dad. If every generation can do something to fix the mistakes of the last, then we'll head in the right direction, even if naturally new mistakes get made.

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    Exactly.

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  • Wow, just wow. I also haven't had a father figure for basically all of my life, from cancer though not abandonment. It's honestly something I think has been weighing down on my for a while, it probably contributed to the month long bout of depression I've just clawed my way out of. I do one day want to be a parent, but not for a long time. I'm 17, I'm not ready for that, the person I love isnt ready for that. Maybe we'll pan out, we are sure as hell stubborn enough to fight through the things forcing us apart against our will.

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    Just be smart & you will lower your chances of making a baby. When we got married, my wife got pregnant the wedding night. We were being safe too, she was on birth control, I was wearing a rain coat & palming a blade....👀

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  • Oh it's not going to happen any time soon. We want to start a relationship based on emotional connection rather than lust.

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    Just don't forget that lust also plays a part. Folks I know that do the best have 3 things in common; emotional connection, spiritual connection & physical connection. If one of you wants something all the time & the other only wants it occasionally, then one will not be satisfied. That can lead people to stray & I don't just mean physically either. All three of those. If you are not getting your emotional needs met, you will get them met elsewhere, same with spiritual & physical. The first 2 not being met can lead to the door being opened on the 3rd happening as a bind forms over that need being fulfilled.

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  • We definitely have emotional connection. We met in dark moments and helped each other out of the holes we were stuck in. And we have a spiritual connection, bot in religious ways but we are more mature and wizened than we should be at our ages because of tragic events of our past forcing us to grow as people. And while we dont experience lust and other thing like that for whatever our reasons are. We do have an undeniable physical connection and are fine with just being close to each other.

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    Remember this, people lie about what they have. They lie to their partner & they lie to themselves out of fear. My wife lied about who she was. The signs were there & I could see them, but I was "in love", so I lied to myself. I told myself, you are being honest with her, so she is being honest with you. The thing is, she had decided she wanted to be with me. Day before the wedding, she hit me with a host of changes she wanted me to make, because in reality, I was not the dream person she wanted. So I was standing there with a host of changes ultimatum. I tried to make those changes, but because of that, it almost tore us apart. I was not being who I am as a person & at the same time, her lies about who she was did not help us out either. If she had been honest, we could have taken more time to figure out our relationship to make things work or see if they would not work before kids came in and that came with her being in her early 20's & me being in my late 20’s. The moment you start lying to yourself & your partner about what you truly want, you are setting yourself up for failure. It may not be the failure of the relationship, but it is a failure within the relationship.

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  • Of course, people lie, but we are both stubborn as hell in liking each other for who we are. We do already have very emotional talks, and are really the biggest support each other has right now. I'm sure everything could go south, but our pasts have matured us both to beyond what high schoolers really should be thinking about and we lie ourselves out as bare as we can for each other.

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  • I told you I was going to get milk, still can’t find it

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    You I haven't got a hair on your ass!

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  • I have too many

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    Zero does not count as too many.

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  • Boooooooo! Booo on you man!!! [spoiler]jk I agree that men who leave are basically cowards. Good on you for being there for your kids. I aspire to be like that when I have mine. [/spoiler]

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    It is hard, so I can understand to a degree. There are times when you want to say screw it & just leave. Then you see your baby fall asleep watching tv with you, leaning on you or snuggled up in your lap. You wake them up to go upstairs & you hear that sleepy little voice and your heart just swells! Or the times when you are beyond angry & one walks up & says they love you while giving you a hug and you realize how blessed you are to have them in your life. So no, it is not easy. There is no Ikea assembly instructions with kids. They are little lawyers who spend way too much time looking for the loopholes in what you say, when they could have put that same level of energy into following directions & been done, yet it still makes you proud while simultaneously wishing to sell them to the buttwhuppin circus! Then they become teenagers & oh lawd ah-mighty!! All throughout this time though, you start off as being the smartest, coolest person ever, then you gradually become a drooling moron that is only useful for money & a ride. Then they move out, they have to struggle & grow. They start to understand [i][u][b]why[/b][/u][/i] you did & said what you did. The love for you returns & you get to see the wonderful person they grew up to be.

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  • I don’t leave when I’m down 10-0 in rocket league, I think that proves I’ll be a competent dad. /S

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    Yeah.

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  • Down voted and reported..

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    Just like your mom.

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  • We have the same mom, gigglefartz..

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    Dammit, stop switching back & forth! We agreed that it was xronad's time to play! You had all last week when xronad was silent!

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  • Was too busy with pt.

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    Excuses, excuses. I don't have any issues doing PT & being here!

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