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If you played the game with your glimmer and cores etc missing, would you not also be complaining about that? "Bungie deleted my stuff from the product I paid for". They have released an update with a bug and are fixing it, yes it seems to happen regularly but that's the nature of programming. No code can be tested 100%. Its irritating when it happens for users, but it is even more irritating for the developers
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  • No other computer game I have played since the early 1990s has had quality problems occuring as frequently and as severely as in Destiny. Bungie simply doesn't want to invest into QS. It costs a lot of money. Why should they spend it? There are enough fools like you who willingly swallow that kind of BS and even find excuses for it. I wonder if you would act the same if you bought a car and it would break down again and again year after year because one problem and software bug after the other would surface, and a fix to one of them would more often than not introduce new or bring back old problems. You may not be able to avoid all problems with a piece of software the size of Destiny. But most of them could have been avoided. Many of the problems Destiny have are simply rooted in bad QS and bad software architecture and code design. Just look at Telesto, or all the new God mod glitches centered around emote usage. I am saying this as a long time (20+ years) SW dev and architect. It's not like I wouldn't know what I am talking about, like many others here.

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  • Edited by General_Skyy: 1/29/2020 1:22:58 AM
    I’m not challenging your expertise... Games in the 90s couldn’t hold a candle to the complexity that is Destiny... I don’t appreciate being called a fool because I like the game... you like the game then play if you don’t then don’t... if you like Ford buy a Ford, if not then don’t... but don’t lambast someone and call them a fool for liking or having a different opinion then yourself. If I rely on a car to get me to a job to make money that is very different then going home to enjoy a video game that is currently offline or doesn’t respond the way I like. Not having a car impedes my life, Destiny does not. Maybe your right... maybe poor architecture, but architecture they cannot simple change now; they need to learn and get better for the next Destiny.

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  • Edited by Razzupaltuff: 1/29/2020 1:47:00 AM
    I cannot find the post of mine you are replying to, so I cannot tell whether and why I called you a fool. This much I can say: Bungie can start applying proper QS to Destiny. The problems right now are a testimony to their lack of incompetence (and be it caused by trying to save as much money as possible at the cost of their customers). First of all, there seem to be insufficient or no automated large scale tests on database integrity during a sandbox test of the new software version, or this problem would have been noted before the patch had been rolled out. Then it shouldn't take half a day to roll back a data base update and a software patch to allow players to keep playing until a working patch could be deployed. I am observing how Bungie handles Destiny for years. I actually regret having ever believed Bungie. I am kind of (but not too) stuck with this game because I know it and it is easy for me to hop in, play around a bit to relax and quit whenever I have enough of it. That's why I still play it, but the time of my being done for good is very near now. I am done with Destiny for various reasons, its constant QS problems actually being the least prominent. Destiny has become a more and more boring game. It's greatest weakness is that the core of its design is creating a "game" that actually is a chore. Sure, there are plenty of activities, and they are fun for a while, but the goal of Destiny is not to have a variety of evolving activities requiring you to adjust and become better, it is acquiring tons of game items, most of which then just rot in your vault or inventory, because they are either non meta or totally exchangeable. There are dozens of guns of each type, and playing Destiny just revolves around grinding good rolls of them; Rolls that are almost unobtainable for casual players due to the extreme influence of RNG. If you play that much for such a purpose, you actually work, you chew through endless repetitions of the same activities which aren't fun in themselves anymore to get, to possess a virtual game item the only use for is playing more of these activities for yet another game item. Obviously some people find that entertaining. I did that, too - often for the simple reason that it is easy t hop into Destiny and play it for a while. But actually Destiny isn't worthwhile anymore in my book. And I am not alone with that opinion. Just listen to the growing number of Destiny streamers saying more or less the same.

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  • Edited by General_Skyy: 1/29/2020 2:03:39 AM
    I too am super frustrated with D2 and the loss in potential but that just pushes me to design better and sharpen my skills as a programmer so one day when I’m sitting behind the helm this won’t happen... I will eventually get bored and not play but I feel like the (paltry compared to some people) ~300 hrs I have in game is well worth what I paid for... where else can you get that much enjoyment for ~ 0.50 per hour... I indeed appreciate the comment you have just posted because I too believe in better Q&A testing... But the only useful tool we have is not buying or spending another dime on the product... if you bought a car which you felt was subjectively horrible you could not simply turn it back in or make the manufacturer “fix” all the flaws just because your frustrated. You would be stuck, the difference is that anyone can back out of D2 at anytime... that vote is worth something... that is the vote that will hurt and the one that will force them to be better...

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