Funny. When i shoot things i do get loot. Einsta Maybe reinstall it if it doesnt for you.

The industry has sure changed. The mobile market sure put a sting in what other Live service games do. Destiny, CoD, Battlefield, ETC. They all became victims on Loot boxes and the FoMo ideology its insane.

I posted this a while back, seems relevant to your post so I'm going to paste it here.👇 -The game is just boring as hell now. - The game has focuses way too heavily on bounties for xp and micro transactions. I couldn't think of a more boring way to play this game. I just can't do it anymore. -Seasons. Just not a big fan. Destiny was more fun for me and many others with a the more traditional expansion format that I could play when I have the time available. Artifacts are a neat idea, but need to stay and not disappear when a new Artifact comes out. Limiting our options is just a bad idea IMO. - Raids are not fun or very creative. Nobody wants to raid anymore because they are way to mechanic heavy and people are tired of being called out for screwing up or dying (in the hardest activity in the game mind you). We want a challenge, but we also want some room for error. The days of helping random guardian are gone. D1, 2 people could die and your team could still clutch it out creating awesome moments and friendships in the process. If I could offer any advice, all I got to say is Kings Fall was a master piece of what a raid should be with The Last wish a close second. Honorable mentions, Vault of Glass, and Wrath of the Machine. - No strike specific loot. Strike specific loot needs to return, chasing random rolls (while playing the game not doing bounties) is what we loved about this game. Not having this makes the game grow stale real quick. - Lack of story or immersion. Story missions that you can replay on every planet like in D1 were awesome. You could go back at anytime to try and understand the story better, or find a good farming spot for bounties or quests without interruption. Plus the Dead ghost search was fun too,Good lore pieces. This game is missing this vital element. -No Factions. Factions were a big part of what made D1 great, especially when they introduced random rolls on weekly reset. Every Tuesday you had that giddy feeling you were going to finally find that God roll you were looking for, weather it was an armor piece or weapon, and if it was there, and you didn't have the materials to get it, you were off grinding away happily. This game is missing this vital element. - Crucible. This has been a trial and error process since D1. They will never get it right until, I hate to say it, and I am going to get alot of hate for saying it, but they need to use a Call of Duty style leveling system with weapons and perks that unlock as you rank up. This is the only way to level the playing field and bring skill back into the equation and must 100% be separate from PVE! PVE weapon stay in PVE and PVP weapons stay in PvP! They are just way overthinking it in my opinion, the game just feels all over the place and a mess right now. Hopefully the next installment of Destiny next fall will go back to a more traditional story driven game. Get back to what put this game on the map.

I miss factions, i miss strike specific loot and strike scoring. All those awesome stuff Bungie did back in D1 and then took these away. I havent run normal strike for ages.

This is the identity crisis this game is having that everyone has been going on about. D2 doesn't feel like a looter shooter in part because it lacks that spark the first game had, and it continues to fail to strike a chord with players through various aspects of its loot system. Back in D1, didn't have an obnoxious and nauseating version of the Eververse store filled with vast amounts "exotic" aesthetic gimmicks designed to capitalize off of show-off people by quenching their hedonistic egos. Many exotics in D1 felt very powerful and "exotic" like they rightfully should, many were not overshadowed by very viable legendary options and had a time and place in certain activities. Elemental primaries (which incentivized raids/trials) were still a thing and very relevant especially in burn Nightfalls even more so before the burn modifier got nerfed. There was a strong bond players had with their most coveted, prized, trusty, and dear weapons in D1 (I cherished my vanilla hard-hitting VoC, fatebringer, New Monarchy Faction Crusader I scout rifle, and versatile 1000 Yard Stare sniper rifle that I was real crackshot with back in TTK). Legendary, sublime, and rare engrams (all which had a low chance to dip into a higher rarity pool on decryption) dropped encrypted which made Rahool relevant. Didn't have prime engrams (which inflates the loot aspect of D2) that the game would occasionally spoon feed for a measly increase power level only for it to amount to nothing but a waste of time at the end of a bloody season. In D1, players actually had to unlock weapon perks (perks that actually were warranted and made a difference which made weapons actually feel progressively stronger) Field Scout on VoC gave it like 20+ shots in a mag for a scout. You didn't get a hip-fire grip sniper rifle as a random drop; many weapons came with coherent perk selections. With exotics it was all the more tantalizing to fully upgrade a great exotic weapon (Gjallarhorn, Red Death, P&T to name a few) and crack open it's true unfettered power. Hidden perks were also an added bonus to discover on many exotics. It's a disservice and ridiculous to compare D1 exotics to many D2 exotics, 90% of exotics in this game are pathetically average, lackluster, and a trope in regards to your time. They should be legendaries really as they detract from and dilute the potency of the term "exotic." Most exotics in this game have no "meat" just like many of the flashy emotes, ghost shells, new finishers, and sparrows prominent in Eververse. All lusterful cash-grabbing gimmicks designed to entice. Now I see the word "exotic" and that yellow background on items in D2 more as an exploitive sales pitch thanks to Eververse; it's a travesty really. The gunplay and loot is such an essential and fundamental part of this franchise; it's the meaningful and precious experiences players share with their weapons over time that defines the looter shooter genre. The hardship and ludicrous probability they endure to even attain a stellar weapon, and how they groom that weapon as well as customize it to fit their unique playstyle that makes looter shooters as addicting as they are enjoyable. Rant over. Edit: Grammar

I think we can take Bungie at their own word: “Destiny 2 is a collections game” So, there you go. This unhappiness some feel is because they try to participate in the “collections” aspect of the game only to find that the way we collect things is not fun and very generic. You do a generic thing to get a piece of loot which is usually a random piece of loot. Shortly after the announcement that D2 was a collections game we saw most of the new, interesting collectibles shoved into the cash shop or battle pass, which are updated each season. We have seasonal events where the cash shop is updated again, mid-season. Instead of killing Oryx to get that highly sought after shader, we now just purchase it from a vending machine. Whoever thought this was an interesting way to collect things had those $$ in their eyes, and nothing more.

Bravo :) only taken the community two freaking years !! At last you guys are seeing the light.

Per the TWAB, the CoT was a huge success and this game is in a fantastic place. 🤷

They better have a big forsaken sized dlc next year because shadowkeep was a major let down in content and I feel scammed by the annual pass

I know the game has issues, but what about playing for fun? I dont remember atari or nintendo games giving any loot

How is this not a looter shooter? It's the damn definition of it. There is so much to do in this game it's actually heavy for new players. Hundreds of great weapons to collect. Tons of different ways to collect them. I think your issue is that you've played it all, like... alot. Take a break. Go play a different loot game for 2 years and let me know how exciting it is at the end.

As a high tier/transgender/liberal gamer I fervently disagree.

What I don't understand is how I have been saying these things for years. Continue to and i get downvoted to hell immediately. You call everyone who plays essentially and idiot but your front page? There is nothing of substance in this either no solutions I offer those. Nothing. I guess it's just me left forever screaming into the void in a world of idiots and morons forever ignored.