In spite bungie knowing 3/4 that's 75% gamers, refuse to do your multiplayer. You had to put this poison pill in anyway. Adding pvp to this ridiculously long saint 14 quest line. Is an insult to your player base. I immediately deleted this quest upon seeing this BS requirement. Despite that I received the saint 14 bounties and the curated shotgun anyway. You put the shotgun in a separate quest line. Why? All said and done, I completely finished the sundial and forgot about it. Till now, where as you still think if people played your pvp they may change their minds. The answer to that is a resounding, NO WAY. Even your own people refuse to play your pvp. A bungie employee said to me it was too toxic for normal people. You have the numbers of the people from day one, who refuse to play this garbage. Matter of fact your numbers who played pvp in D1 in its entirety top out at 28%. or 72% refused to do any of it. Even with your sparrow races. Go figure lol. Still you keep trying. I have no pvp weapons at all. I don't need any of them. But some people hold their noses to do this or that and they're not happy you forced them to do it. Everybody I know and who is on my friends list, HATE your pvp in this game and don't do it at all. Why? It's not fun, unless you like being pissed off of all the BS this pvp puts you through. If you're not playing a game for fun. What are you doing here? [spoiler]Moderator edit: This thread has been updated with tags that are more appropriate. Feel free to private message the moderator who moved your post, link to topic, for further clarification about why this topic was moved.[/spoiler]