The extremely poor stability stats of these two submachine guns make them nearly unusable. Cold Front is especially egregious as it has such strong range options, but what you sacrifice in stability makes it impossible to use on controller due to the violent and unpredictable recoil. This makes me sad, as it’s a very unique and rare archetype, but the only two randomly rolled 750 aggressive SMG’s are worthless compared to every other close range weapon in the game. Even sidearms out perform them in terms of range and accuracy, both aimed and from the hip.
Please, these weapons deserve at least double the base stability. I know they are meant to kick hard to offset their high damage, but in the crucible they are simply worthless.
EDIT: as a potential buff to the archetype, how about this: a slight increase to magazine size across the board, and add a mix of hip fire grip and dynamic sway reduction when firing from the hip. The weapons can be crazy, unpredictable, and deadly in close range, and an archetype built around hipfire would, to me at least, be a great deal of fun. It would solve the identity crisis the archetype has of having high range but unbearable accuracy, and would set it apart from other classes of submachine guns.
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1 ReplyI got me one with Feeding Frenzy and Kill Clip, really good roll, still sucks.
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3 RepliesFYI, to make any smg useable on console you HAVE to have zen moment a medium zoom scope or arrowhead brake/chambered compensator. Those are the perks that make in consistent.
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I haven't seen an aggressive frame smg being used since like black armory, but somehow bungie thought it was a good idea to add another to the game.
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1 ReplyIt is frustrating because I have a decent Hard Truth and Cold Front but I can only use them on PC cause the stability is easy to manage but on console I can’t use it at all. I wish they would increase the stability on both weapons
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2 Repliesmost SMG's stink, but I honestly haven't really noticed the change in Recluse. At least not in PvE, I never really liked it in PvP.
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I was enjoying my cold front and doing well with it last night. I agree it could use some stability tho.
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2 RepliesHard Truths kicks harder than Cold Front for some reason. I had one with two different stability enhancing perks and it still hit me in the teeth. I was even countering aiming to offset it! But Cold Front? Hardly any Stability but I can use it without any problems. That being said....it needs to have either better Reload or more rounds in the magazine.
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Threat detector may help the SMG a lot. It helped a lot on the ikelos SMG.
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1 ReplyI think it's unfair to call them "nearly unusable". Underrated is a better term. With Zen Moment + Kill Clip, they can shred in the right hands. But I wouldn't be opposed to an archetype buff.
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Bumped. Upvoted. Thumbs up. I agree.